Lighteningspeed

Best advice I've heard in a long time.

lakehouse

Sarcasm?????????????

Zach

Im young (26) and I have a house, a wife, and a 4 month old. I guess im screwed.

lakehouse

I guess its what she does, what you do, if u got f worked, and what you make of it all, i know that i am almost glad i didnt make the rj wagon, cuz i dont have myself settled down

Zach

I was going to be f'd from TSA, but I quit before that, and started doing line service making the same amount. I should be flying a King Air Shortly though. Once you get settled down, life isn't THAT much different than it was before. Not as far as work is concerned.

lakehouse

Zach,

I think your the exception not the rule, because it seems alot of guys made it to the RJ, got married, had a kid, and suddenly got f word'd. I am 22 and flying for a drop zone, and have learned alot from everyone on here. I will not get my self situated till I have enough money saved up to ride out a situation like this. I feel for everyone, I don't see myself making more then 20 grand a year for a long long time, but I am also sort of glad this bubble of people w 350 tt going right to the RJ is gone, because its not the way people should be living the aviation career, I really want to work my way up from the bottom, which is exactly what I am doing. Just my 22 year old take on it all though.

Ganshfly

Good post....I am recently furloughed...got hired a year ago when things were booming and now we are in one of the worst busts ever. But at the end of the day it is what you make of it. I'm 23, I will recover, but regardless whether you decide to get married and have kids, that is your OWN decision to make....you have to be willing to live with the consequence IF something does happen...just my 2 cents! Good luck everyone. In response to the (working up from the bottom comment) regardless if you were flying and RJ or skydivers....we are all THE SAME, and will have to work up from the bottom.

Lighteningspeed

No sarcasm intended. I meant what I said. I've heard the same thing from so many people and it seems to ring true. I sure as heck would not be doing this right now if I was married with kids depending on me.

RMWRIGHT

[quote=i121ADX;611251]It's not that we're not interested, it's the fact that I could be working at McDonald's 32 hours a week and make more money per year than a first year RJ F/O. I don't think commercial flying is worth it anymore. If you're entrusted to handle multi-million dollar aircraft and get paid less than my secretary, who does nothing what so ever unless I tell her to do her job, why take the risk?

What will the FAA and NTSB do about anything? They will slap peoples wrists and say "You've been naughty for underpaying pilots. Now go play with the other RJ's and not get in trouble," that's what they'll say. Long hours, lots a fatigue, no pay, why bother?

If you want to have $50,000 in debt making $21,000 per year, have fun, I'll pass and take a desk job in aviation. I would like to retire at 60 and have my student loans paid off. New pilots comming in will retire at 60 and still be paying their loans off.


more like 70k in debt and make 14k a year !

Lighteningspeed

[quote=RMWRIGHT;612460]Retire at 60? Are you kidding me? These people with $140,000 school debt will have to work till 65 and still have those loan payments after that. We had a lot of people in our class with school debt in excess of $120,000 and they weren't even making their loan payments during their first or second year as an FO. They had them postponed. Think of the compounding interest charges accruing on those loans. Scary. When they start making their payments, they would be more than most people pay for their mortgage on a single family house.

I know most of my friends in my circle, including myself, do not plan to work till 65 if we can help it, unless things improve drastically, which seems highly unlikely. 35 years of dragging your rollerboard and your hefty flight bag from gate to gate and getting up at 4am twice in a row on a 4 day trip does not sound like fun. Only reason I am keeping this job is I get lots of days off so it makes it more bearable and I think of it as a part time job.