Getting hired..
 

Ok, so I've heard of guys getting hired by going to a job fair and making face to face time... but has anyone actually been hired by responding to an add from say a, Climbto350, or Avcrew? or for that matter any ad?

Seems like those jobs go to people with internal refs.. they're just placed for EEOC purposes or something.. no?

I do know a guy that got a full time GIV job off the street on climbto350.com I think your right that some jobs are simply offered as a quick and easy EEOC attempt. I don't think I've ever gotten a replay, let alone a "Dear John" letter back from my applications.

I'm ready to give up.... 100 jobs sent for, and not a peep.. even the ones I'm way over qualified for.

worthless.

don't give up man..look outside the box...go the extra mile....I'm 38 last (600 tt) getting my american licenses now and just last year I broke my neck spent 6 months in bed 3 to 4 months to walk again and I started flying again 1 month ago..and I'm not going to give up...I know the market is bad now but keep on going.
best luck

thanks for the good word papacharlie.. I'm 38 too.. feel like I've wasted the last 10 years chasing this career to nowhere.. done everything right, good grades, college, flight time, but just seem to show up late to all the parties. Timing is so much of this industry and I've just not had any of that.

Always darkest before the dawn CE - read DE727's essay on how he bacame a UPS pilot. I would be willing to imagine that at the time he got hired he didn't know he had hit the career lottery. Keep your chin up.

thanks Stinsonjr.. I've read it.. and many like it. I'm able to hang on and dream, but I've got a wife and kids that are not so willing. I've turned down dream interviews with Emirates and Etihad, and less dreamy interviews with Indian and Chinese airlines that I would have otherwise taken as a single man.. But I agree, it's as bad as it's going to get now, so we'll just have to wait and see what's next.

Why don't you go abroad? You are looking for something that will not find!!! No good paying jobs in USA.

Stop wasting money in Climb to 350!!

www.rishworth.com is looking for 744 FO based in the USA. There are jobs available, a bunch but not in the USA.

NO EXPAT JOB WILL TREAT YOU LIKE IN THE USA. NO EXPAT JOB!!!!!

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RISHWORTH AVIATION
CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS
B744 FO
Note: All currencies are in US dollars unless specified
Qualifications: 300 + FO hours on type
1,000 + total airline transport hours
Flown on type within the last 12 months
Under 45 years of age at date of joining
Contract Term: 5 years, with extensions to age 55
Payment: Total package value $8,432 tax paid per month (when including monthly value of
insurance – you choose the package to suit you – please refer to
insurance/payment options attached). Total value during training $6,232 tax paid.
Paid off shore to the bank account(s) of your choice.
Overtime: Overtime of $90 per hour over 75 hours/month (paid to the bank account(s) of your
choice.
Bonus payment: $1,000 paid after successful completion of line training and line check – the training
period takes approximately 3 months.
Per Diem: Paid monthly direct by KAL to you.
Per diem rates vary per destination – range from $3 to $5 per hour. Please just ask
us if you would like to receive a copy of current per diem rates.
Review: A payment increase equivalent to the annual US cost of living index from the month
of April, only where KAL records net income in the previous fiscal year. However, if
you join, retire, resign, or your contract is terminated in the concerned fiscal year or
after you are not eligible to get the pay increase - example 1.6% in 2003, 1.9% in
2004, 2.7% in 2005, 3.4% in 2006, 3.2% in 2007.
Annual Leave: 2 days per month of service (24 days per year). Taken monthly, or you may take up
to 7 days annual leave in any one month.
Sick Leave: 10 days per year
Bases: Anywhere on the KAL network where they operate 2 or more times per week
Operating Base – Seoul, Korea
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Days Off: 9 consecutive days off per month plus 2 travel days per month plus annual leave
days can be added each month (see annual leave above).
Travel: Travel on KAL's network to and from duty each month - when deadheading to duty
guaranteed economy class seat upgradeable to business class on space available
basis.
4 x free of charge round trip economy subload tickets for yourself, spouse and
children on KAL's network each year.
ID50 and ID90 tickets 6 times a year for yourself, spouse and children
Access for you and your family to interline tickets with other airlines
Accommodation: Excellent standard hotel accommodation and transport provided in Seoul and
throughout the network. For accommodation at Base Residence in Seoul refer to
www.incheon.regency.hyatt.com
Insurance: Please refer to schedule below on page 4.
Korean Tax: All payments to you are after Korean tax has been calculated and paid on your
behalf
Bank Transfer Fees: All bank transfer fees paid by Rishworth Aviation
Application/Interview process:
1. KAL short application form and resume submitted to KAL. KAL reviews these documents and
invites you to screening if accepted.
2. Before the screening further application forms and documents to be submitted.
3. The screening process consists of a three day interview, sim check and medical in Seoul. In
practice, to attend, you will need to allow 5 – 7 days in total (this includes travel to and from Seoul).
4. KAL will provide travel in business/first class (except in rare situations when completely booked out)
from your nearest KAL port, but not airport taxes. Please keep a record of these costs
(receipts) and Rishworth Aviation will reimburse these to you with your first payment.
5. KAL will arrange and pay for your hotel accommodation in Seoul (at the Hyatt Regency Incheon),
and you will be provided with a total of KRW 100,000 (approx US$100) during the screening to
cover transport and meal costs.
Please contact Anna Doherty from Rishworth Aviation for further information and application forms
[email protected]
Telephone: +64 9 302 0080
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Recruitment Consultant Details:
Senior Consultant Details:
Disclaimer
This document does not constitute an offer and is for information purposes only. Please note the information may be subject to
change.
Meryn Hemmingsen is the Senior Consultant for this contract. Meryn
manages this contract and will be your contact Consultant from contract
commencement.
Telephone: +64 9 302 0080
Skype: merynhemmingsen
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.rishworthaviation.com
My name is Anna Doherty and I will be your Recruitment Consultant for
this contract.
After gaining a Bachelor of Arts at the University of Canterbury my
experience has been largely in administration and travel and I am
thoroughly enjoying delving into the aviation industry.
I look forward to working with you.
Telephone: +64 9 302 0080
Skype: anna.doherty.ral
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.rishworthaviation.com
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INSURANCE/PAYMENT OPTIONS
You choose the insurance and payment package that best suits you. You may select either Option A, B, C
or D. Rishworth Aviation will arrange your chosen cover and provide you with the insurance certificates and
documentation.
Option A
No
Insurance
Total monthly payment to you of $8,432 (base $8,170 plus payment of $262
in lieu of insurance)
Option B
Your monthly
payment
$8,332 per month
Medical
Insurance
ACE worldwide with full North American cover. Includes:
• evacuation/repatriation
• dental services
• home leave benefits (all cover provided for days in home country)*
Option C
Your monthly
payment
$8,270 per month
LOI – Accident
and Illness
(incl life and
disability
cover)
ACE Loss of Income for Illness and Accident
Up to $2,000 per week for up to 2 years (after 60 day exclusion period)
1 x annual salary for accidental loss of life
Option D
Your monthly
payment
$8,170 per month
Medical
Insurance
ACE worldwide with full North American cover. Includes:
• evacuation/repatriation
• dental services
• home leave benefits (all cover provided for days in home country)*
LOI – Accident
and Illness
(incl life and
disability
cover)
ACE Loss of Income for Illness and Accident
Up to $2,000 per week for up to 2 years (after 60 day exclusion period)
1 x annual salary (up to $500,000) for accidental loss of life
* For up to 45 consecutive days in home country, provided does not exceed 120 days aggregate per year

Thanks man.. I agree it's a waste, but the job you posted reads like the vast majority of them. "300+ on type" are the key words... I'm typed in MD11 and A320 and neither of them are looking for any US Based pilots.. that I can find at least!

Believe me I'm looking 24/7.. but thanks for the tip.

For what ever is worth, I know people geeting in with out the type. And KAL will based you in the USA, either SFO, LAX, ATL CHI. Send email to Anna. Best