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Old 04-26-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Seneca II job in Denver need 1000 hrs multi???

I just saw this on one of the boards... I'm wondering if the multiengine time requirement is a typo and maybe should read "100 hours" rather then "1000 hours". Probably not.

I'm thinking about wasting my time to call "John" and tell him he's out of his mind!

Here is the add:
Title: Pilot Seneca II

Company: Employers Name Withheld Product/Service:
Location: Denver area Required Travel: None What, no travel?
Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent

Description:
Private Pilot needed in Denver area to fly Seneca II.

Requirements:
Must have 2000 accumulated flight hours, with 1000 You have got to be kidding me!in a multi-engine aircraft, and have 50 recorded flight hours in a Seneca.

Company Benefits:

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Phone: 303.295.3400 Fax: 303.295.3409
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Please fax resume to 303.295.3409, or call 303.295.3400 and ask for John

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Originally Posted by 1013dot25hPa
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Private Pilot needed in Denver area to fly Seneca II.

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Must have 2000 accumulated flight hours, with 1000 You have got to be kidding me!in a multi-engine aircraft, and have 50 recorded flight hours in a Seneca.
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Hmm. Private pilot to fly for hire. Sounds like John has more dollars than sense.
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If anything, I would say that the "private pilot" part is a mistake. I don't think 1000 hours is alot to ask to fly any twin. What is wrong with that?
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dhc8fo,

Why do you say that 1000 hours is not a lot to ask for? I instructed in a Seneca with a lot less than that.

I bet you got hired as a FO flying a Dash at Piedmont, Island Air, Etc with a lot less than 1000 hrs multi. At least your co workers did get on with a lot less than a 1000, no? Also the guy's and girls at Airnet, AMFlight, RamEx, Package Express, do I need to go on? Got on with probably 200 hrs multi or less.

The Seneca is not exactly a high performance twin by any means, off-course IMHO.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by 1013dot25hPa
dhc8fo,

Why do you say that 1000 hours is not a lot to ask for? I instructed in a Seneca with a lot less than that.

I bet you got hired as a FO flying a Dash at Piedmont, Island Air, Etc with a lot less than 1000 hrs multi. At least your co workers did get on with a lot less than a 1000, no? Also the guy's and girls at Airnet, AMFlight, RamEx, Package Express, do I need to go on? Got on with probably 200 hrs multi or less.

The Seneca is not exactly a high performance twin by any means, off-course IMHO.

Just my 2 cents.
Because if I was a business man having someone fly me around, I would want someone with some experience under his belt. Sorry, but that is my opinion. A light twin is already at a disadvantage performance-wise when you lose an engine, so I want someone who will not kill me when it happens.

And no, I did NOT get hired at my carrier with less than 1000 hours. I haven't been an FO for a long time and when I got hired, no one with less than about 2000 was getting picked up. I think the lower standards are terrible and I hate the fact that I often have to babysit the nugget next to me. It is very irritating.

Too many new pilots feel entitled to a job because they simply shelled out the bucks to get their ratings. You will never change my mind that pilots need to come up through the ranks the good old fashioned way, by flight instructing or whatever to gain real-world experience. It is only a matter of time before some of these green captains (minimum ATPers) and their even greener FOs start killing people. I wouldn' put my family on half of the commercial flights given the composition of the flight crew.

Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but there it is.
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Originally Posted by dhc8fo
Because if I was a business man having someone fly me around, I would want someone with some experience under his belt. Sorry, but that is my opinion. A light twin is already at a disadvantage performance-wise when you lose an engine, so I want someone who will not kill me when it happens.

And no, I did NOT get hired at my carrier with less than 1000 hours. I haven't been an FO for a long time and when I got hired, no one with less than about 2000 was getting picked up. I think the lower standards are terrible and I hate the fact that I often have to babysit the nugget next to me. It is very irritating.

Too many new pilots feel entitled to a job because they simply shelled out the bucks to get their ratings. You will never change my mind that pilots need to come up through the ranks the good old fashioned way, by flight instructing or whatever to gain real-world experience. It is only a matter of time before some of these green captains (minimum ATPers) and their even greener FOs start killing people. I wouldn' put my family on half of the commercial flights given the composition of the flight crew.

Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but there it is.
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The employer can probably find someone if he's willing to pay salary. I know plenty of people who have salaried corporate/91 jobs that pay $50K+ that only require them to fly twice a month. They do real-estate or consulting or something else flexible on the side.
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