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Old 05-25-2006, 08:44 AM
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Would having an MD-11 type rating on my FAA Airman Certificate help at all in getting me an interview at FedEx or UPS?

If so...
I have a foreign, non-ICAO type rating on the MD-11. Does anyone know if FedEx or UPS sell sim time and have examiners available? Or who might I contact to find out?

Where do World and Gemini send their pilots for MD-11 training?

Any info or thoughts on the topic appreciated!
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:56 AM
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I don't think it would do you any good unless you have experience in the airplane, and you HAPPEN to be in the hiring pool at this very moment. I get the impression that the answer to both of those conditions is no.


By the time you might get a type rating, find a sponsor, schedule a meet & greet, and finally interview, this current wave of training will be ancient history. Even if we were in the same situation, I doubt that a type rating without the hours to back it up would be very meaninful.


Of course, I don't make those decisions, and I disagree on other points of the process with those that do, so I might be all wrong.






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Alteon in Long Beach has an MD-11 sim.

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Waste of money... invest it elsewhere.
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This from the PPrune North America forum:

"Please refer to FAR 61.55(d) for the regulatory requirements for issuance of an "SIC type rating". Bottom line: If you have completed the required training, It's just a paperwork exersise. As stated previously, there is no practical exam for the SIC type. Your training records and a signed 8710 may be presented to a FSDO inspector. He should be able to issue a new temporary on the spot. This is the quickest and easiest way to go. FSDOs in the boonies may be less familiar with this procedure than those located in a major city. "

Definitely get the SIC type, it's free. If you want a full unrestricted type then you'll need to talk to Alteon. If they can do it for less than a few thousand bucks then I think it is money well spent. The beauty of FAA type ratings is that they are permanent. If that type can open a door for you later in your career then it could easily repay the cost.


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GreenDOG... what are your totals as far as flying goes? What is your current career experience?

With the copetition being so keen, if you are in the 1500 to 2000 band, you would have a better success with a regional carrier.

Before investing in any type rating be it on the B737, Airbus, or MD11, try to contact current FED EX and UPS employees. Don't rely on here say from others or second hand information, for the price can be very expensive and all you'll have is a type rating and no where to go.

If you do have previous 121 experience without an ATP then an initial type rating on let's say a B737 or Airbus may be worth your while if you meet the major carriers' average minimums. Carriers state what their minimums are... but the average minumums are greater than the company minimums.

Good luck and stay in the game... you'll be happier that you did.
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GreenDog,

Consider applying for an FAA certificate based on your foreign certificate. Don't know if it will work, but that way you don't have to pay for the US type, and can still claim it on your resume/US certificate.
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Hello guys

Green Dog is an MD11 FO with EVA and I am sure he has more experience in terms of flying hour. And it's all Heavy MD11
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Originally Posted by iluvetops
Green Dog is an MD11 FO with EVA and I am sure he has more experience in terms of flying hour. And it's all Heavy MD11
As recommended in an earlier post, GreenDOG should take his training records to the nearest FSDO and talk to an FAA inspector. They should be able to point him in the right direction and give him the best guidance regarding the MD11 rating being added to his certificate in accordance with FAR Part 61.55(d). Better yet if EVA gave him an actual PIC type rating in the MD11, he may be able to have it added to his ATP certificate.

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Originally Posted by iluvetops

Green Dog is an MD11 FO with EVA and I am sure he has more experience in terms of flying hour. And it's all Heavy MD11
As opposed to ... not-heavy?



Seriously, the experience in the airplane is what seems to count this week. (Who knows what the rules will be next week.) I would be more concerned about the requirements for US residency for the FedEx job. If he is selected and goes to the MD-11 at FedEx, he will go through the same course of instruction as any other FedEx MD-11 FO or Capt, and he will take a check-ride that will give him a Type Rating (not an SIC rating).





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