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Radials Rule 07-02-2009 06:13 AM

Paying 4 climbto350.com, worth it in my case?
 
I'm employed with an ACMI but, I am interested in trying to pick up some pt 91 contract flying in anything from ferrying piston singles to SIC in a t-prop or biz jet in my off time. Does 350.com have these types of ads often enough to justify paying the membership fee?

supersix-4 07-02-2009 06:52 AM

Most of those jobs get posted up here anyhow :rolleyes:. You pay for the service and somebody that's trying to "help" shares that info with the world.

TPROP4ever 07-02-2009 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 638485)
I'm employed with an ACMI but, I am interested in trying to pick up some pt 91 contract flying in anything from ferrying piston singles to SIC in a t-prop or biz jet in my off time. Does 350.com have these types of ads often enough to justify paying the membership fee?

Dont waste your time or money, unless you have thousands of hours. Any non ATP wont qualify for 90 precent of the jobs you pay to see, in the currnet climate

Zapata 07-02-2009 03:05 PM

It seems like the contract jobs listed are more long term contracts as opposed to the one time trips that you're looking for.

Jughead 07-03-2009 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 638511)
Dont waste your time or money, unless you have thousands of hours. Any non ATP wont qualify for 90 precent of the jobs you pay to see, in the currnet climate

Agreed. I was looking into the same thing, and paid for a month or two, but didn't qualify for squat. Very little part time/ferry stuff unless you're willing to travel to the usual third world garden spots. Or have a type, are current, with 3000 pic on every bizjet known to man. Waste of time/money.

Radials Rule 07-03-2009 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 638511)
Dont waste your time or money, unless you have thousands of hours. Any non ATP wont qualify for 90 precent of the jobs you pay to see, in the currnet climate

I do have several thousand hours and an ATP. I also have some biz jet types, I'm just not 135 current in them. That said, are you saying that it might be worth a membership?

Thedude 07-03-2009 12:05 PM

I would say its not worth your time or money.
I tried the same thing a couple of yrs ago when the economy was stiil good and it always seemed I would make enough money to cover the cost of a recurrent or the flight would go when I was already on another trip. A logistics nightmare for me.
Why not just pick up an extra trip on the -10

Radials Rule 07-03-2009 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 639076)
I would say its not worth your time or money.
I tried the same thing a couple of yrs ago when the economy was stiil good and it always seemed I would make enough money to cover the cost of a recurrent or the flight would go when I was already on another trip. A logistics nightmare for me.
Why not just pick up an extra trip on the -10

Normally, I would be glad to do overtime and ***** myself out for the extra money. However, I won't volunteer for extra flying while my coworkers are furloughed.

LastTraintoMEM 07-03-2009 07:09 PM

There are a ton of free sites. Screw the pay sites!

Thedude 07-03-2009 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 639167)
However, I won't volunteer for extra flying while my coworkers are furloughed.

Good on ya.

BIRDIE 07-04-2009 08:28 AM

not intentionally going against the grain here, but if the fee won't hurt you too bad then climbto350 is probably the best place to be when searching for pilot work. while it is true that a lot of it is full of big jet contracts with airlines overseas, stuff still pops up on there from time to time that may interest you.

Trogdor 07-04-2009 10:42 AM

Avianation.com is way better than 350.

aviatormjc 07-04-2009 11:19 AM

I just let my subscription end on Climbto350.com. I have been a member consistently for over 2 years now. 90% of the jobs are overseas in less desirable countries. Haven't tried Avianation yet though.

Outlaw2097 07-05-2009 10:10 AM

Ive always prefered findapilot...but hey, its your money.

pkunzip66 07-05-2009 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 639167)
Normally, I would be glad to do overtime and ***** myself out for the extra money. However, I won't volunteer for extra flying while my coworkers are furloughed.

VERY GOOD!!!!

jcaplins 07-05-2009 12:39 PM

Wouldn't you be taking those odd jobs from furloughed co-workers looking for anything?

:(

TPROP4ever 07-05-2009 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 638932)
I do have several thousand hours and an ATP. I also have some biz jet types, I'm just not 135 current in them. That said, are you saying that it might be worth a membership?

Not sure, to be honest, I was simply making an observation that most of the jobs on that site require 1000's and ATP as their listed mins. Im pretty sure being out of currency is going to kill a lot of us till the next hiring wave...sigh:eek:


PS, love your signature line, I have a buddy with a Pitts 12 with the M-14 and you should hear that puppy roar....its like music

Mitragorz 07-05-2009 08:54 PM

I paid for a 350 membership and it found me a job flying a 172 around the country for over $60k/yr.

Then again, I'm pretty sure none of the "former jet-fliers" on furlough would lower themselves to such a position :rolleyes:

Red Forman 07-05-2009 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mitragorz (Post 639940)
I paid for a 350 membership and it found me a job flying a 172 around the country for over $60k/yr.

Then again, I'm pretty sure none of the "former jet-fliers" on furlough would lower themselves to such a position :rolleyes:

I know of many furloughed "former jet-fliers" who would love to have such a job.

Moonwolf 07-05-2009 09:45 PM

What you can do is find a friend who has a climbto350 account and just use their password, or go halfies with some friends. If your nice enough I can lend you my buddies username/password.

Radials Rule 07-06-2009 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 639932)
Let me get this straight. You won't pick up extra flying at your airline while you have pilos on furlough, but you are more than willing to take a part time flying gig away from one of your fellow furloughed pilots, or one of the many other thousands of furloughed pilots that are trying desperately to find any kind of flying job in this market?

Well, no. You are suggesting a contradiction where none exists. If there are ads for contract flying, they are free for the grabbing by anyone qualified.....including my furloughed coworkers (which may or may not be interested for a number of reasons). However, if my airline is offering extra flying, the trips are not up for grabs by my furloughed coworkers (that were obviously interested). As for the thousands of other furloughed pilots, they may or may not be interested in contract flying gigs. If they are, they are free to bid for those jobs. After all, there is a reason why it is called a job market.

Frankly, your line of reasoning is abject nonsense.


Not at all. The actual question is that are you just the pot calling the kettle black? Next time, perhaps you should think a little more carefully before posting (and implicit name-calling)

Red Forman 07-06-2009 06:04 AM

You taking an extra job means one less job out there for the many pilots that are looking. And as everyone knows, there are a lot more pilots trying to get a job that there are jobs to be had. I am just asking you to have a little respect/sympathy for everyone else that are struggling to make ends meet and just enjoy your days off from your current job.

Radials Rule 07-06-2009 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 640028)
You taking an extra job means one less job out there for the many pilots that are looking. And as everyone knows, there are a lot more pilots trying to get a job that there are jobs to be had. I am just asking you to have a little respect/sympathy for everyone else that are struggling to make ends meet and just enjoy your days off from your current job.

I doubt that you're "just asking" me anything. You started with the name calling and accusations so don't be hypocritical and start talking to me about respect.

Again, it is a job market so I am not taking anything from anyone. Anyone qualified can bid for those jobs. As for respect and sympathy, there is no issue as me looking for extra work in an open job market is not disrespectful or unsympathetic to furloughees......not even close. There is plenty of easy money to be had from extra flying at my employer and I am absolutely respectful and sympathetic by not picking up that extra flying.

Red Forman 07-06-2009 12:40 PM

How is me asking you hypocritical? You see it differently that myself and a lot of others, but you are entitled to your own opinion.

Radials Rule 07-07-2009 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 640198)
How is me asking you hypocritical? You see it differently that myself and a lot of others, but you are entitled to your own opinion.

"a lot of others"? I doubt you have some kind of inside word on a consensus opinion. You are also entitled to your opinion. As for hypocrisy, check your PM's.

AirWillie 07-07-2009 01:50 AM

Climbtonowhere is a scam website and I used to be a member. It's about 99.9% foreign stuff and in weird in places like the Zulu nation and Tanzania, with random jobs along with recycled posts. Think about it, it's like the only website that pilots know for finding jobs. That means if JOE Redneck from Wyoming needs a summer pilot there will be about a billion applicants. Or if it's actually possible for a corp flight department NOT TO BE ABLE TO FIND ANY PILOTS before posting on climb to nowhere. Do some networking, that's certainly going to get you a job quicker.

Red Forman 07-08-2009 05:54 AM

I don't need "inside word on a consensus opinion". I know plenty of people that feel the same way as I do. Have you never shared the same idea with a group of people before? Or do I need to take a poll and show you numbers for you to believe me?

ProceedOnCourse 07-08-2009 06:41 AM

That or find a USA flight board only..

FLIGHTOPENINGS.COM

LeftWing 07-08-2009 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 641319)
I don't need "inside word on a consensus opinion". I know plenty of people that feel the same way as I do. Have you never shared the same idea with a group of people before? Or do I need to take a poll and show you numbers for you to believe me?

You acted as though you had a consensus on this forum and you do not.

Look, how many times did Radial have to repeat it to you? It is a job market and taking a job from the OPEN market as extra work isn't stealing from furloghed pilots and there are exactly zero ethical questions involved. Now quit hijacking this thread with your far reaching whacked out reasoning. If you want, start your own thread on the topic and quit your whining.
Sheesh!


Radial,
I don't think 350 is worth the cost, especially now days.

Radials Rule 07-08-2009 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 641319)
I don't need "inside word on a consensus opinion". I know plenty of people that feel the same way as I do. Have you never shared the same idea with a group of people before? Or do I need to take a poll and show you numbers for you to believe me?

You're saying two different things. There are these people that you know and now you think you have a consensus on this thread. If you feel the need to prove yourself, take the poll....no skin off of my back.

RMWRIGHT 07-12-2009 01:01 PM

yeah scre* those pay to play sites.
i have an account with climbto350
but I wont renew, its a waste of money
and its just making the site owner
wealthy. findapilot has 10,000 pilots
registered and some (dum dums)
pay $100 a year to have their resumes
on that site. The owner of that site
is pulling in $700,000 a year !
And do you really think an employer
is going to look through all those resumes? Of course
not, they'll just place an ad and get hundreds
of replies.


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