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B767 06-04-2005 12:10 PM

Foreign Carriers?
 
Does anybody here know of any foreign companies that hire mainly, or higher a lot of American pilots? I was just wondering because I wish to be an airline pilot and was wondering what foreign companies are good? Cathay Pacific (the worlds best airline) looks good and so does Qantas but I'm not sure what is needed and how these companies operate.

Thank you in advance!

Taylor

WatchThis! 06-04-2005 01:15 PM

The obvious question is - if you are an American, why wouldn't you apply to a US carrier?

Anyway, it's best to see if your qualified to fly for non-US carrier. If you hold an FAA issued ATP it may not be valid in a country or carrier that requires a JAR (or other) license.

Look at Atlas, you'll see that many Asian carriers outsource to them.

B767 06-04-2005 01:38 PM

I was just wondering. I still have a ways to go, I'm only 17/ By the time I am qualified enough to fly for a major i hope things at United have gotten better because that is who I want to fly for...well actually any carrier with the 767 (hence the name) :D

flaps 9 06-04-2005 07:35 PM

taylor, you will be fine. go to school and get your degree, dont PFT or cross any picket lines and keep your nose clean. try to build as much multi engine turbine PIC time as you can and when you retire youll be telling stories to your grandkids about that OLD 767 you once flew. :D

HSLD 06-04-2005 09:25 PM

Taylor,

The industry IS hurting these days, and this down cycle is a really bad one for airlines and labor alike. No telling if the industry will return to "normal" anytime soon if at all.

If you want to fly the 767, take the previous advice and get a college degree - and my advice is: DON'T get an aviation degree. Major in something that could offer you gainful employment in a different industry if needed.

Many pilots before you have worked their way through college flight instructing or working on the ramp. The thing about aviation is - it's not a quick process to go fly for a major airline. Although, if you want it bad enough....

Welcome to the forum!

- P

PS. Did you know that the 767 was originally designed with a "T-tail" - like a 727 or MD-80?

B767 06-05-2005 07:06 AM

Nope I never knew that. I will definetly be getting a college degree...despite what you just said. I have talked with many airline pilots and some HR personal from United and they say that they do look at grads from ERAU and UND differently and in some cases they can be favored. Besides, the only thing that interests me even 25% as much as flying is history (I know, I know) and if aviation fails me, what would I be able to do with a history degree anyway? Hopefully I'll get to fly the 767 if airlines don't start getting rid of them...but I know that wont happen fast and I am planning on making the most working my way through the regionals and then the smaller airliners...but hey maybe it could happen fast...i know a 777 FO and he is 29 years old!

Taylor

BTW...I already am a PPL trying to build those hours!

Bengalsfan 06-05-2005 01:23 PM

Military?
 
Hey Taylor

Don't forget about the best training in the world... the Air Force. After an active duty commitment of 1o years, you will have more than enough hours to get any job you want (assuming the market is at least reasonable). Also you won't have to struggle through years of slave labor as a regional guy, you will make pretty good money while you build very quality hours, make tons of connections and have a lot of fun.

If active duty isn't for you, as it wasn't for me. You can also think about the Air Force Reserves or Guard. You can fly for them, and a regional and together build great hours and earn plenty of money.

Just a thought.

Good luck

SWAcapt 06-05-2005 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=Bengalsfan]Hey Taylor

Don't forget about the best training in the world... the Air Force.....


That is of course, if you could not get into the US Navy. ;) Actually the guard idea is great. You could go enlisted while you're in college and make some cash on the side and then apply for a flight spot when you graduate. I've been told that Guard units like to hire from within.

Jetpilot 06-10-2005 09:52 AM

[QUOTE=SWAcapt]

Originally Posted by Bengalsfan
Hey Taylor

Don't forget about the best training in the world... the Air Force.....


Originally Posted by Bengalsfan

That is of course, if you could not get into the US Navy. ;) Actually the guard idea is great. You could go enlisted while you're in college and make some cash on the side and then apply for a flight spot when you graduate. I've been told that Guard units like to hire from within.

They do like to hire from within, I finished 2nd for a C130 slot in the late 80's to someone in the unit the C130 was assigned to.... Great deal if you can stay stateside...

As plan C make sure to get a degree where you can get a real job to pay for the flying on the civilian side if the military side doesn't work out. Been down that road personally....

Good luck,

Jet

Typhoonpilot 08-05-2005 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by B767
Does anybody here know of any foreign companies that hire mainly, or higher a lot of American pilots? I was just wondering because I wish to be an airline pilot and was wondering what foreign companies are good? Cathay Pacific (the worlds best airline) looks good and so does Qantas but I'm not sure what is needed and how these companies operate.

Thank you in advance!

Taylor

Companies that are currently hiring or employing Americans include Cathay Pacific, Emirates, Gulf Air, Qatar, Sri Lankan, Korean Airlines, China Airlines, Eva Airways, Japan ( Jalways, NCA, etc ), various mainland Chinese 737 operators, and a host of others.

The only really good jobs are the ones that are permanent or long term contracts. That would be Cathay Pacific, Emirates, and Dragonair. Korean, JAL, NCA, and a few other long term contracts can be good but I wouldn't shoot for those as a career. In fact, I would head the advice above and shoot for U.S. majors. They would be a much better career path provided this airline shake-out is over by the time you are ready.

Also, don't get hung up on one airplane. The 767 is getting old and outdated. By the time you are likely to see one they will be over 30 years old. The 777 is far superior technology and a joy to fly. The 787 looks very promising as well. If you really like flying then the DC-9 or 727 are two of the all time best aircraft to fly. It would do you and your skills a world of good to start out in an old steam gage style aircraft like the DC-9, 727, 737-200, or others of that era.


Typhoonpilot


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