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EC135 06-05-2005 04:23 PM

Pay Charts
 
I was wondering about the pay charts listed on this site. If you are a FO with 5 years seniority, and you are upgraded to Captain; do you go to the hourly rate of Captain at 5 years or do you go to Captain at one year?
Just curious..... Thanks to anyone who could answer.
:confused:

SWAcapt 06-05-2005 04:47 PM

The years are time with the company as a pilot. You do not start over at year one when you upgrade. Hope this helps.

EC135 06-05-2005 05:28 PM

Thanks SWAcapt,
I thought they might be like military pay charts but not sure. Thanks for the clarification. :o

HSLD 06-05-2005 05:52 PM

Speaking of pay charts
 
Check out the pay calculator to the right of each pay scale chart - its new as of this afternoon. It a dynamic Flash movie that allows you to set any pay rate ($15 min./$300 max.) and multiply it by monthly credit time AND number of bid periods. So you can easily take a rate, make your assumption of how many hours they fly per month, and use the bid period scale to see monthly, quarterly, or annual base pay.

Feedback welcome!

Cheers - Paul

Here is Southwest's page for an example: http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/view/48/17/

Oh also, the flash movie is 158kb - not all that small but you only have to load it once then it's available for any page once the movie is in your cache.

EC135 06-05-2005 06:06 PM

I saw the new pay calculator and love it. I stumbled onto this web sight in 2004, man has it come a long way :D ,,,,,,,Do all airlines operate on 13 bid periods annually?

Diesel 10 06-05-2005 06:35 PM

Good job, APC. You're leaving AIR INC in the dust with the kind of quality info you're posting.

When are you guys going to put up a pay comparison chart again? Your old site had it.

HSLD 06-05-2005 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by EC135
Do all airlines operate on 13 bid periods annually?

No, the only airline I can think of is ABX (I think it's ABX!) which operates with 13 bid periods of 28 days each. And no, I don't know who get the extra day :) So, I included 13 bid periods for them.

Thanks for the feedback & remember if you have an idea that will make the site better - please use the "contact" link on the main site and let us know how we can improve.

All the Best - Paul

HSLD 06-05-2005 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Diesel 10
When are you guys going to put up a pay comparison chart again? Your old site had it.

Thanks for the positive feedback, we hope the pilot community finds value in what we do.

Regarding the comparison charts, yes!, they will be back soon. We've been playing around with some different formats that allow us to present the info in a dynamic format - I think we're just about there. Look for those charts in early July for ALL fleets from the 1900D to the 747-400. We'll compare each airlines hourly rates by airframe for capt's and fo's. There will also be dynamic features (like the pay calculator) although we are trying to be bandwidth friendly so I can't promise features just yet.

The comparisons are in demand for sure and I think they'll be a nice addition to the site. I know everyone wanted them yesterday but we're going to wait and release all of them at once (about 50 in all) . I'm hurrying but the crew desk keeps calling!

As the format isn't set in stone - let me have it....... What features would you like to see in a pay comparison???

Diesel 10 06-06-2005 10:08 AM

Can't wait to see.

Freighter Captain 06-06-2005 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD
No, the only airline I can think of is ABX (I think it's ABX!) which operates with 13 bid periods of 28 days each

UPS also! 13 pay periods of 28 days each. I also believe FedEx has a noncalendar based system of 28 and 35 days or something like that.

EC135 06-06-2005 01:50 PM

Great Web Sight
 
Thanks everyone for the input!!! This web sight is awesome…

HSLD 06-06-2005 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Freighter Captain
UPS also! 13 pay periods of 28 days each. I also believe FedEx has a noncalendar based system of 28 and 35 days or something like that.

I knew it was one of you high paid cargo guys (the difference a decade makes huh!). :)

jzuniga 06-09-2005 06:35 PM

Fedex has 4 week bid months, except for four times a year in which we have 5 week bid months. This yr. they are Jan/Mar/Jul/Oct. bids.
Z

Jetpilot 06-10-2005 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by SWAcapt
The years are time with the company as a pilot. You do not start over at year one when you upgrade. Hope this helps.

Unless you work for Ryan, then you do.... :confused:

Jetpilot

TheProfessionalPilot 09-14-2005 09:31 PM

No Pay Chart Displaying at all?????
 
Any ideas why the pay charts are not displaying? When I view the "airline information" section and click on the airline nothing as far as pay shows up --- No charts. All of the textual information shows up and IE does not show any errors. Is this related to my flash player?

Jetpilot 09-15-2005 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by TheProfessionalPilot
Any ideas why the pay charts are not displaying? When I view the "airline information" section and click on the airline nothing as far as pay shows up --- No charts. All of the textual information shows up and IE does not show any errors. Is this related to my flash player?

I suspect so, I just checked and they displayed fine for me.

Good Luck,

Jet

HSLD 09-15-2005 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by TheProfessionalPilot
Any ideas why the pay charts are not displaying? When I view the "airline information" section and click on the airline nothing as far as pay shows up --- No charts. All of the textual information shows up and IE does not show any errors. Is this related to my flash player?

The pay charts in the "airlines" section are simple .gif images. We've seen issues with some software firewalls not allowing .gif images, but the fix is easy. If you are running a program like Norton Firewall, you can configure the setting to "allow" images from airlinepilotcentral.com. We do encrypt the file location of our pay charts to prevent hotlinking to other sites and some [software] firewalls see this as suspect and block the file.

For pay comparison charts in the "comparisons" section, those are flash movies at about 250kb each. They take several seconds to load, even with a high speed connestion, and much longer with dial-up. You need a current version of the free flash player to see the movies, version 7 works best.

Thanks for the question.

dondk 11-25-2005 02:07 PM

I cannot get the pay charts to display in either IE or Firefox.

I am using Mcafee and have no option to allow images. Although all other images work fine for other sites...

is their a plugin I am missing?

ERJ135 11-25-2005 03:52 PM

Hey, everybody

Sorry not to be in line with the conversations but, on the pay charts what exactly does annual bid period mean??

surreal1221 06-03-2006 02:26 PM

Okay, newbie question
 
Alright guys, sorry. . .

I searched and didn't find an answer, but I figure this thread is best of any to ask the question.

Here is how I am using the pay calculator.

I'm selecting the Yr 1 FO hourly rate, and putting it into the calculator. Then I look at the monthly guarenteed hourly . . . 70, 75, etc, into the calculator. After that, it's pretty much a guess because I don't know how many bid periods each airline uses.

My question is, if I leave the bid period at 1, and the 100% at. . . 100% (which, what is that for? I have no idea), the dollar amount listed in blue, is the monthly pay pre-taxs, correct?

Just want to clarify. And also, if anyone knows, what are the bid periods for EGF, ASA, COM, and any other regionals that anyone can think of?

Thanks all for the help in understanding this very valuable asset.

HSLD 06-03-2006 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by surreal1221
My question is, if I leave the bid period at 1, and the 100% at. . . 100% (which, what is that for? I have no idea), the dollar amount listed in blue, is the monthly pay

Most airlines use 12 bid periods (monthly schedules), although there are exceptions, I'm sure those who differ will chime in. The dollar amounts are gross, and the 100% box is to quickly do "what if" scenarios (what if we had a 10% pay increase or 8% cut - you'd set 110% or 92%).

Glad you like it!

surreal1221 06-03-2006 02:46 PM

Ah hah, I see. Very nice, thank you.

Yeah, I figured it'd have to 12 months or so. . . cause if it was 4 or 6. . . that would really really suck for those of us with SJS (current ATC student who may join the darkside should the contract get chopped by congress on Tuesday).

Thanks again!


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