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Old 02-19-2017, 06:55 AM
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Old 03-14-2018, 10:10 AM
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Default FAA hiring Airspace System Inspection Pilot

New bid came out today for all FIFO's for a few vacancies at each.
Rumor has it 12 pilot slots total.
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotmec View Post
New bid came out today for all FIFO's for a few vacancies at each.
Rumor has it 12 pilot slots total.
Just to add to the post

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/493862500

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/493862600
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What are the competitive mins generally for this job? I see what the published ones are, but what sort of resume is the FAA usually looking for in an applicant?

Unfortunately I am merely a 300 hour dreamer right now, but I am strongly interested in this as a career in the future. I'm a little older than your average low time guy (27), and the stability and unique mission is what attracts me the most. Plus I have some military time I can buy back.

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Originally Posted by kaputt View Post
What are the competitive mins generally for this job? I see what the published ones are, but what sort of resume is the FAA usually looking for in an applicant?

Unfortunately I am merely a 300 hour dreamer right now, but I am strongly interested in this as a career in the future. I'm a little older than your average low time guy (27), and the stability and unique mission is what attracts me the most. Plus I have some military time I can buy back.

Appreciate any help.
Post 148 and a post on Page 17 of this thread details the experience of an Indoc class at one point in time.
Like everywhere, the hiring environment changes with the industry.
Right now I would think that you could get on with a lot less time than I did back when I was hired. I was the lowest time guy by far in my new hire class at 3500 TT with only about <300 hrs being civilian. My particular times were posted on #108.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Post 148 and a post on Page 17 of this thread details the experience of an Indoc class at one point in time.
Like everywhere, the hiring environment changes with the industry.
Right now I would think that you could get on with a lot less time than I did back when I was hired. I was the lowest time guy by far in my new hire class at 3500 TT with only about <300 hrs being civilian. My particular times were posted on #108.
Appreciate the info!

It looks like in the past they have strongly favored hiring former military aviators. With the current pilot market nationwide, is it more likely that the FAA would consider hiring someone with a pure civilian flying background?

I am a current Air Force officer that is planning to separate from active duty in about 2 years, however I am not a rated military pilot so all of my flying has been, and will be, civilian. I am currently working on my CFI, and hope to hit 1500 hours total within a year after separating; with the goal after that of heading to a regional.

Would a regional first officer or captain that is also a military veteran be competitive for this job? Is there anything I could do in the future to strengthen my resume that would make someone without military flight time stand out?
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Originally Posted by kaputt View Post
It looks like in the past they have strongly favored hiring former military aviators.
Some factors here tend to make this observation more prevalent than it might really be in reality.
First - federal hiring practices help prior military with Veteran's Preference points towards an application. I'm sure you are familiar, and if not, you should educate yourself on what you should expect upon your retirement. In leaner hiring environments like when I was hired, it would be nearly impossible to be hired on an EXTERNAL announcement (one open to the general public) without Veteran's Preference points.
Secondly, there is an active duty Air Force Detachment that does the same job we do. They train with the FAA, they fly with the FAA, we operate from the same play/rule book, etc.... In the past, an Air Force Flight Checker could retire on Friday wearing his flight suit (ICONUS they wear civilian clothes), and show up on Monday in civvies and there would be ZERO transition required.
So yes....the FIS is heavily populated by military types - and of the military types it is heavily populated by USAF types, and of USAF types it is heavily populated by AMC types.
Many of the civilian pilot population comes from within the gov't and particularly from within the FAA itself in the former of INTERNAL announcements. We have quite a few former ASI/FSDO types, ATC controllers, TERPSters, etc....

With the current pilot market nationwide, is it more likely that the FAA would consider hiring someone with a pure civilian flying background?
Yes. The market and competition for pilots is as strong in the gov't flying positions as it is anywhere else. If you want to be an airline pilot - now is certainly a good time; so many of the USAF pilots who have generally transitioned in the FAA are choosing he airline path. I have no doubt that in the current hiring environment with this latest announcement that we will see quite few civilian only background candidates.

Would a regional first officer or captain that is also a military veteran be competitive for this job?
Yes. We have a few former airline types in the ranks. Most of them got out of the airlines, became ASIs, and have now come to FIS.

Is there anything I could do in the future to strengthen my resume that would make someone without military flight time stand out?
No...not really in my opinion. The time stand out would be during the interview process. FLEXIBILITY is certainly key and something that even those of us who are use to constantly changing requirements usually take some time getting use too. Personally, I think that some time spent in aerial survey is the closest thing to this job. There is a mission between takeoff and landing, flying tightly control patterns with precision aircraft handling can be required, working extremely close with ATC in some very busy airspace after conducting briefs/telecons/exchanging maps of required maneuvering, flying down low most of the time - often conducting opposite direction approaches at pilot controlled fields, etc..... It is a different type of flying from anything that you will have done in the past.

I personally believe that there will be hiring for the foreseeable future in the absence of more threats of gov't shutdowns and the like. USA JOBS and announcements like those linked in this thread are the best places to keep an eye on; has we may know that they are looking to hire, but they do not announcement the release of announcements so we find out from others that application windows are open.

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Anyone ever heard of positions like this for rotor wing?
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Anyone ever heard of positions like this for rotor wing?
Yes....the FAA has one or two guys that do the rotor program. All of the ones during my time here have been former Army helo guys.
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USMCFLYR, thanks for all of the helpful info. Very much appreciated!

Two additional questions, do the civilian guys ever fly duel crew with the military dudes? And on a related note, I've noticed from some online searches that the FAA aircraft are in other countries from time to time. How often are these "deployment opportunities" available?

And finally, can you go straight into one of the jets, is a new hire always going to go to the King Air, or are you duel qual'd?
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