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Old 11-23-2019, 06:36 PM   #311  
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New announcements on USAJOBS.gov

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/552503400

There were two listed.
Most possibly external and internal openings.
Remember the advice given in the thread before about applying through ALL avenues for which you are eligible.

Search series 2181 and FAA to see both announcements.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:16 PM   #312  
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The **new** Special Pay Rates have been approved for Flight Inspection.

Below is the link for the 'locality' of OKC.

https://apps.opm.gov/SpecialRates/20...701012019.aspx

This is a new pay scale, not a bonus, so your high three retirement will be based off the new scale.

The current external hire promotion schedule for new hires are to come in initially at GS-13/1 until a qualified ASIP and then immediate promotion to GS-14/1.
Thanks for the information. So if I'm currently a GS-13-3 would I stay at a 13-3, and then after getting mission-qualified become a 14-1? Also, is the flight check the same as for an ASI position?
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Thanks for the information. So if I'm currently a GS-13-3 would I stay at a 13-3, and then after getting mission-qualified become a 14-1? Also, is the flight check the same as for an ASI position?
NattyBumppo -

I assume since GS-13 is now the training rate that you would in fact come in at your current rate as a GS-13/3 and then be promoted on schedule to GS-14/1 (or whatever the save pay equivalent would be) once mission qualified; but I'm not an HR person, so I'd take anything I say regarding pay with a huge block of salt and ask the HR person those questions if interested in the position.
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Just curious, how many hours do you fly on average per year? Also, how long does it take to upgrade to be able to log TPIC? You flightcheck guys have learjets also out of ACY?
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I assume since GS-13 is now the training rate that you would in fact come in at your current rate as a GS-13/3 and then be promoted on schedule to GS-14/1 (or whatever the save pay equivalent would be) once mission qualified; but I'm not an HR person, so I'd take anything I say regarding pay with a huge block of salt and ask the HR person those questions if interested in the position.
I was thinking the same thing that the position would qualify for the safe pay - thanks for taking a stab at my question. Anyway, I applied so hopefully I'll get referred.
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Just curious, how many hours do you fly on average per year? Also, how long does it take to upgrade to be able to log TPIC? You flightcheck guys have learjets also out of ACY?
Like most jobs - how many hours you fly in a year is a very subjective number. Domestic or International? Domestic KingAir or Domestic Lear? Will you be willing to take multiple week flights to Alaska in the Lear? That could be huge flying month or a very slow month depending on the weather for those two weeks.

I will tell you that my personal high year was 550 hrs and my personal low year was 180 hrs. On average I am probably between 400-450 hrs and 23-28 itineraries per year with each trip being on average 3 nights on the road.

The training program for full ASIP qualification will take somewhere between 12-18 months. You are an aircraft qualified PIC when you finish your aircraft training at CAE. I only log TPIC when I am the PIC on the assigned itinerary/authorization.

KACY FIFO has not operated Lear60s in many years. Currently only KOKC and KSMF fly the Lear60s.
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Ok cool, thanks for the info USMCFLYR!

Do any of the pilots use it as a stepping stone to get to the majors?
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Ok cool, thanks for the info USMCFLYR!

Do any of the pilots use it as a stepping stone to get to the majors?
Any job that involves flying can be a stepping stone to any job that one wants.

In the past, this job was not a stepping stone because level of experience that pilots came into this job - and usually where they came from - didn't need this job as a stepping stone. They came here specifically because they didn't want to be airline pilots.

Times are changing and the lure of the big major paycheck as lured some away, others who have left were furloughed airline guys who waited until the last call to return, a few have left and come back finding that the airline life was not for them after all, and some have come from the airlines for a variety of reasons.

But as to your specific question of using it as a stepping stone - with the current hiring environment at both this organization and the airlines - you will work much harder here to gain those hours to enhance your resume for the airlines and the flying that you do will be so different from the flying done at the airlines that I would highly suggest if you want to be an airline pilot - go be an airline pilot. You will be unhappy with the amount of study and other required work for those approx 400 hrs of flying per year rather than just flying for Brand X regional and getting twice the flight hours cruising between point A and point B. Remember the adage I use on here a lot to try and explain part of the job. It is NOT a flying job, it is a job that requires flying.
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Ok great, thanks again for the detailed response. It sounds like a very interesting career with some exciting flying as well.
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