FAA hiring Airspace System Inspection Pilot
08-24-2019, 05:40 AM
#281
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
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Originally Posted by jt130
Didn’t make it passed the initial screening, so congrats to all those that made it this far!
If you don’t know why (and this applies to all), you should call the POC on the announcement and inquire why you were referred. Unlike the civilian world, in many cases HR will actually tell you why if it was a mistake on the application (e.g. not marking the right boxes) which would be helpful should you reapply at a later date.
08-30-2019, 05:23 AM
#282
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
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Technical Test
Does the phone interview and technical test go hand in hand, or will you only receive a technical test if you make it past the phone interview portion?
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Update:
It seems that many of you have contacted me with news that they received a call to set up a PHONE INTERVIEW. This is news to me as I have never heard of doing phone interviews with pilots before. In my time here, during external and internal hiring, they have always brought the applicants to OKC for the HR panel interview, technical interview, and flight evaluation. When I asked up the chain about these phone interviews I was told:
1. The telephone interview replaces the HR panel interview.
2. The technical interview is now a test that is emailed to you and you have a limited time to complete and return.
3. There is no flight evaluation.
On another front, it becoming more and more likely that the FAA Flight Operation Program Office will be receiving the SRS pay scales in the future. On top of that - at least for external hires I understand - they will be HIRED at GS-13/1 level - and once they pass their ASIP check ride (guessing 12-18 months) - they will immediately be promoted to GS-14/1. As a comparison it took me almost 3.5 years to get to that point from GS-11/1 to GS-14/1. This is a much more aggressive promotion standard.
So - interviews are in progress. Good luck to all who applied.
Disclaimer: This is to the best of my knowledge based on general information passed in meetings and a few questions that I have asked up the chain. I am NOT involved in the process and have no insider knowledge, nor am I involved in the decision making process. Take everything with a grain of salt!
It seems that many of you have contacted me with news that they received a call to set up a PHONE INTERVIEW. This is news to me as I have never heard of doing phone interviews with pilots before. In my time here, during external and internal hiring, they have always brought the applicants to OKC for the HR panel interview, technical interview, and flight evaluation. When I asked up the chain about these phone interviews I was told:
1. The telephone interview replaces the HR panel interview.
2. The technical interview is now a test that is emailed to you and you have a limited time to complete and return.
3. There is no flight evaluation.
On another front, it becoming more and more likely that the FAA Flight Operation Program Office will be receiving the SRS pay scales in the future. On top of that - at least for external hires I understand - they will be HIRED at GS-13/1 level - and once they pass their ASIP check ride (guessing 12-18 months) - they will immediately be promoted to GS-14/1. As a comparison it took me almost 3.5 years to get to that point from GS-11/1 to GS-14/1. This is a much more aggressive promotion standard.
So - interviews are in progress. Good luck to all who applied.
Disclaimer: This is to the best of my knowledge based on general information passed in meetings and a few questions that I have asked up the chain. I am NOT involved in the process and have no insider knowledge, nor am I involved in the decision making process. Take everything with a grain of salt!
08-30-2019, 10:08 AM
#284
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Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
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Originally Posted by Sunnyskies
Does the phone interview and technical test go hand in hand, meaning if you get the interview you get the test too, or do you only get the test if you pass the phone interview?
That is the way it was under the past system when they brought you to OKC to interview and then walk right into the technical interview and then out to the flight line to take the flight test.
Under this system I don't expect that to have changed - except for a different way of doing the panel/HR interview and technical test (no flight evaluation)
09-02-2019, 09:55 AM
#285
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Update 09/02/19:
It seems that all of the calls for the interviews have gone out. I don't know if they contact you if you were NOT selected for an interview. You do get the TBNT type of e-mail if you were not referred for consideration at the outset of the process.
So now for those that might have been referred but not selected for an interview. It has come to my attention after being contacted that a certain way of applying has become somewhat of a problem - more of a hinderance - but one which could have profound consequences (in this case that means NOT getting called for an interview).
I'll use ONE type of scenario, but it applies across the board.
Scenario:
There is an open EXTERNAL and INTERNAL announcement on USAJOBS.gov.
Remember in this case EXTERNAL means for those outside of government service - think of it in the airline world or corporate world as an OTS (off-the-street) type of hire. Just Joe-blow pilot out there working in the pilot world and sees this announcement nd decides s/he wants to give it a try.
INTERNAL means for those already in government service. Most often in my area we see people coming over from ATC or Flight Standards (FSDOs/ASIs). The requirements can be a little different (like the difference in currency 100/yr for externals vice 50/yr for internals), but otherwise they are usually very similar.
This makes someone from the inside - like ATC - think that they can (or should) ONLY apply through the INTERNAL announcement. This is the trap. To maximize your chances - every applicant should apply through every avenue for which they qualify. For that ATC person - they are eligible for BOTH EXTERNAL and INTERNAL! It is twice the work with getting two packages together though they overlap in many ways; but in the end - it also helps your chances getting an interview. I'm not an insider on the hiring process. I don't claim insider knowledge of the HR process - especially in government hiring practices! But I know for fact that this time around - a qualified person was not granted an interview because they ONLY applied through one avenue, under which the other avenue was not considered this time around. As the application states - they may chose to interview ALL, SOME, OR NONE of the applicants.
When I say this applies across the board - for instance - Veteran's don't just apply through the Veteran's announcement. If you are a former Vet and work in the FSDO now - apply for the VEOA/External/and Internal announcements for maximum consideration.
It seems that all of the calls for the interviews have gone out. I don't know if they contact you if you were NOT selected for an interview. You do get the TBNT type of e-mail if you were not referred for consideration at the outset of the process.
So now for those that might have been referred but not selected for an interview. It has come to my attention after being contacted that a certain way of applying has become somewhat of a problem - more of a hinderance - but one which could have profound consequences (in this case that means NOT getting called for an interview).
I'll use ONE type of scenario, but it applies across the board.
Scenario:
There is an open EXTERNAL and INTERNAL announcement on USAJOBS.gov.
Remember in this case EXTERNAL means for those outside of government service - think of it in the airline world or corporate world as an OTS (off-the-street) type of hire. Just Joe-blow pilot out there working in the pilot world and sees this announcement nd decides s/he wants to give it a try.
INTERNAL means for those already in government service. Most often in my area we see people coming over from ATC or Flight Standards (FSDOs/ASIs). The requirements can be a little different (like the difference in currency 100/yr for externals vice 50/yr for internals), but otherwise they are usually very similar.
This makes someone from the inside - like ATC - think that they can (or should) ONLY apply through the INTERNAL announcement. This is the trap. To maximize your chances - every applicant should apply through every avenue for which they qualify. For that ATC person - they are eligible for BOTH EXTERNAL and INTERNAL! It is twice the work with getting two packages together though they overlap in many ways; but in the end - it also helps your chances getting an interview. I'm not an insider on the hiring process. I don't claim insider knowledge of the HR process - especially in government hiring practices! But I know for fact that this time around - a qualified person was not granted an interview because they ONLY applied through one avenue, under which the other avenue was not considered this time around. As the application states - they may chose to interview ALL, SOME, OR NONE of the applicants.
When I say this applies across the board - for instance - Veteran's don't just apply through the Veteran's announcement. If you are a former Vet and work in the FSDO now - apply for the VEOA/External/and Internal announcements for maximum consideration.
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