Elusive Napkin

Very familiar with this practice. The reason this all came up was because of a mention of people picking up flying ahead of their assigned pattern.

Glad you enjoyed your overtime trip

744driver

Agree 100%, Jerry...hell, for that matter I'd love to see home basing and dump the current failure of a basing scheme we have now.

plift

Yeah, like I said it's not illegal as long as the pattern is built as if you started at your base. If you live in Europe or Asia and call scheduling to make a deal to VX the front of your pattern to start overseas that trip should still be built as if you left your base, for both days worked(pay) and rest purposes. Then given that the trip is built as if it left a base it should be bidded out in open time to the pilots at the base. If you are awarded the trip with your seniority then everything is great.

This was in regards to people possibly making under the table deals with scheduling to start overseas on a trip not in their original awarded pattern and not awarded by seniority to avoid the commute.

RockoADT

Took the written test yesterday. Scored a 94. The gouge on this thread is real good. Hope to get the call for the interview soon. Maybe I'll see you guys on the line.

Shibuya

Just want to ask/clarify two things on this topic.

1) The most important thing I gather from this discussion about open time is that it must be published in open time so all pilots can bid for it right? Just so some outlier isn't calling the company and saying "I'm in XYZ and I'll take it" when another guy has followed the rules and bids for it.

2) Help me understand why/how often a pilot might have to travel on days off. In earlier discussions it seems like it happens mostly in situations like "I am based in ANC and I am starting a trip in ANC but I live in the lower 48."

Thanks!

Atlas Shrugged

1. That is correct. Pilots working back door deals is wrong. Open time must follow the rules.

2. If you live in Atlanta, and you are based in Anchorage you will have to use Gateway travel, jumpseat, or drive to ANC on day zero (what we call an X Day or day off). Atlas will buy the ticket, but it will be taxed as income. Most of your hotels will also be taxed as income. There are specific (complicated) rules about that. If you work a trip out of JFK, you will DH (not Gateway) to New York on day 1 of your pattern. You will be on the clock and not subject to any taxes as JFK is not your base.

I can not recommend anyone coming here unless you can not get hired anywhere else.

crewman

Is there more open time for the 767 or the 747 ?

protegepilot

Got the call last week for class 8/10

I applied for 2 years ago and have been updating every 3 months.

Got the online test 5/17
Took the test 5/20 (87 score)
Online interview 6/1
Interview @ Miami 6/11
Poolie email 6/12
Call for class 7/30
Class 8/10

5500 TT, 0 TPIC, 121 FO
No internal recs

Pretty much relied on this thread and the people who post on here. Real class act in here and I am pretty confident its the same on the line. Thank you!

SamNFTY

So excited to attend class next Monday, Aug 10!

• Invited to take online assessment 4/17/2015
• Passed test 4/25/15 (86%)
• Received phone call 5/27/2015
• Interview 6/10/2015 in Miami
• Poolie email 6/12/2015
• Invite to class 7/31/2015
• Class date 8/10/2015

I have 3700TT and 600 TPIC. No internal recs.

I have to thank everyone on this thread for all the help getting here! To the Aug 10 classmates, see ya Monday!

anothermember

I lived in Florida and was based in ANC. I would leave my house, in the morning, two days prior to my duty day starting (I had to get adequate rest after all). Then I would usually finish about 1pm, go to the hotel for 5 hours and leave 8pm for the warmer weather. I would arrive at my gateway airport in the very late afternoon or after dark. There was absolutely no way around it. The airline schedules to and from ANC are lousy. And don't expect to upgrade. The oil workers pack these flights and have many more miles than any Atlas FO will ever have.

So doing the math, each rotation I gave an additional 3 days to the company for free. With two rotations a month (I've had three) that is six days taken from my days off every month.

Yes fairly often you are sent home a day or two early. But once home you are on home reserve. You are required to answer your phone and be at your gateway airport within 4 or 5 hours. You are still not off. And as I live close to a base, I was called on one of those R1 days (trip never happened).

Just my experience.