108dash3

24 in class right now.

C5nwhaleguy

This feels as though this has been 6+ years riding on the back of a big phat turd. I'm finally pressing send on my apps as i'm enjoying decent qol but make peanuts. Time to burn this place down.... FYI Buyer i was you with hopes it could improve. Not a chance! If you suffer from big shiny jet syndrome then please by all means apply.

Xtreme87

Out of curiosity, what is your gross annual after 6+ years?

LoneStarM1A

You will be making about 140k gross on your W2 (not including per diem) left seat of a 767 @ 6 years or 170k left seat 747 depending on if you waited a few months to upgrade on the 747 or took first available upgrade on the 767. This assumes no extra flying on days off. +/- 10% depending on sick calls, how you use vacation, conflict bidding training, etc. That's all pretty meaningless for new guys though, no idea what kind of seat a newhire today would be looking at in the year 2022. I've always made about 3-10% less than hourly rate x 1000 at Atlas, except my first year, under the old contract, during which I made significantly more. Let's just say 75% of the way through 2016 and I haven't yet grossed 100k, sitting left seat in a widebody aircraft.

It's because our schedules here aren't block time productive like a normal airline. Most of us rely on the 1 hour pay per 4.95 hours at work trip rig and industry lagging 62 hour guarantee (50 hour 1st year). Due to contract language we can and often are sent home early from trips and dropped to guarantee on the company's whim. I'm not trying to complain, these are just the facts.

SD3FR8DOG

I remember you were pretty psyched back in the day getting on at Atlas. How do you feel about the place now???

I hope things turn around for you guys, if Amazon picks up you'd think they'd want labour peace.

boeingdvr

Amazon, Atlas, and DHL- have the cash. We will get a fair contract- we are only a few weeks into our Amendable date.

This 4th qtr is make or break for us-

5Ypilot

140k for 6 year 767 CA seems optimistic to me. That assumes a monthly credit of 77.7 hours, so to do that on would have to A) not conflict any vacation or training or call in sick, or B)work overtime.

3 vacation weeks drop you to 62 hr guarantee
A sick call drops you to guarantee
A training event that is not worked on days off drops you to guarantee.

I know some people here dont like my data but its not a matter of opinion, its the embarrassing facts, on 6 year pay, a 767 capt who maximizes 3 vac weeks, conflicts training, and calls in sick once will be more in the $126,000 range.

I calculate this based on 6 months at guarantee and 6 at 78 hrs. I feel based on my experience here I am even being optimistic in my numbers but I am sure others are less motivated to conflict training etc. For me 17 days is enough. I am unwilling to do my training on days off and I take my vacation.

C5nwhaleguy

$120k

Duesenflieger

Yeah, regional captains make more flying CRJs. Crazy.

Diesel8

On average how much do you have to pay tax wise on imputed income?

Any more information on the HK tax hit? Will the company pay that tax, as it is beyond your control to keep from flying in/out of VHHH?