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01-03-2017, 01:33 PM

#15291

Treehorn

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Originally Posted by FlybyKnight

FYI..... Lots of ex-Atlas pilots in today's UPS newhire class.

Hopefully relatively senior former atlas pilots.

01-03-2017, 03:12 PM

#15292

Whaledriver

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Originally Posted by DJIA

Source...?

RD, himself.

01-03-2017, 04:11 PM

#15293

Atrasaty

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Originally Posted by sixfootglass

Just thought I would throw my earnings in there for the benefit of those looking at coming to Atlas. I have been here for 9.5 months and as of the Dec. 30 paycheck have grossed $27,839.

Wow.......it's worse than I thought. Bottom line if you are a regional pilot with a car payment, mortgage, family to feed and an education loan to service and you choose to come here you may well drown like many of our FO's are right now. I have also spoken with guys that are using up their savings and credit cards to stay afloat in the hope they can move on before they go under. That's a lot of induced stress and a shameful situation. I hope it changes sooner rather than later but my optimism has gone.

01-03-2017, 09:43 PM

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Globemaster2827

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Originally Posted by Atrasaty

I have spoken with many 76 FO's that are on target to make 50-60k first year after months of training delays. Think about that, 50k for flying a wide body jet in worldwide operations. That's criminal in my opinion but that is the reality despite what HR will tell you.

As a first year FO at Atlas your guarantee is $38,200. Period. If you were to get 15 hours of over guarantee a month (a large number in my opinion) you make $47,740. 25 hours a month (a pipe dream without VXing)? $54,100. The facts are that you probably won't crack $50K without tons of VXing and you won't be able to hold open time trips very often as a junior FO.

01-04-2017, 09:52 AM

#15295

Davetastic

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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

I'm on 6 year pay and I barely cracked $100K last year. True story.

I just finished year 2. My results:

year 1 42k gross
year 2 87k gross

no vx, no outbase, no open time pick-up and I conflict bid all training and vacation.

01-04-2017, 11:06 AM

#15296

DJIA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Davetastic

I just finished year 2. My results:

year 1 42k gross
year 2 87k gross

no vx, no outbase, no open time pick-up and I conflict bid all training and vacation.

Is this on the 74 or 76? Also, how many days at home did you average per month? Thanks for the info!

01-04-2017, 11:15 AM

#15297

Davetastic

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Originally Posted by FlybyKnight

Do you have your app in at UPS. You'd more than double what you made last year. Heard there are around a half dozen or more Atlas dudes in the newhire class that started yesterday.

I wish...I don't know anyone there that could give me a rec. If I did, I'd certainly apply.

01-04-2017, 11:33 AM

#15298

captainv

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlybyKnight

Do you have your app in at UPS. You'd more than double what you made last year. Heard there are around a half dozen or more Atlas dudes in the newhire class that started yesterday.

There are a ton more pilots already in the UPS pipeline.

01-04-2017, 11:52 AM

#15299

A5t2l8a0s

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DJIA

Is this on the 74 or 76? Also, how many days at home did you average per month? Thanks for the info!

Gotta be 74 as 76 pay second year is 84. And on the 76 between 12-14 days at home depending on how you can work the commute is what I have experienced.

01-04-2017, 12:18 PM

#15300

Davetastic

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Originally Posted by DJIA

Is this on the 74 or 76? Also, how many days at home did you average per month? Thanks for the info!

I'm on the 747 and my bid seniority in ANC routinely gets me a DH on the front end as to not burn days off getting to work. I have never been extended (although they have tried but only a few times) and I have never burned a day off getting home. I average 15 days off a month. Never less than 14 and occasionally 16. When I bang in sick or conflict bid it can be more which drops me to min guarantee with R1's being stuck on the front or back but i'd rather be at home regardless.

pm me for more details.