Atlas Air Hiring
01-06-2017, 03:43 PM
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It is important that this issue is discussed because it is material to the decision of accepting employment at 5Y. The origins of the tax situation really lie with our "sequel to Lorenzo" management and why they "volunteered" us to pay these taxes as a deterrent to using the "benefit." They figured that we would use our jumpseat privilege instead of the now taxed gateway provision. The application of this taxation by payroll is totally random. As I have said many times on this topic, you can volunteer to pay taxes, once you are paying them you cannot un-volunteer to do so. It's all part of the puzzle and one of the reasons that a potentially great Airline with a great business model has become a shambolic joke. Sad.
01-06-2017, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by alphonso1
Wow!
The thread is about ATLAS AIR HIRING, Not, ATLAS AIR PAYROLL??
Is there any chance it can get back on the tracks before it totally derails and goes right into the weeds????
I'm on A So Called, " Preferred Hiring " List since I interviewed Last
September 2016
Anything going on at all this year???
The thread is about ATLAS AIR HIRING, Not, ATLAS AIR PAYROLL??
Is there any chance it can get back on the tracks before it totally derails and goes right into the weeds????
I'm on A So Called, " Preferred Hiring " List since I interviewed Last
September 2016
Anything going on at all this year???
I've flown with new FOs recently that believed they would be making $90K the first year, because that is what they were told during the interview and have heard other stories on the line about how new guys had no idea how things are before they took the job. So yeah... info about Atlas Air payroll is relevant in an Atlas Air Hiring thread.
01-06-2017, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sandstorm
I would think having accurate pay info when taking a new job would be of some importance, but what do I know? I've flown with new FOs recently that believed they would be making $90K the first year, because that is what they were told during the interview and have heard other stories on the line about how new guys had no idea how things are before they took the job. So yeah... info about Atlas Air payroll is relevant in an Atlas Air Hiring thread.
I've flown with new FOs recently that believed they would be making $90K the first year, because that is what they were told during the interview and have heard other stories on the line about how new guys had no idea how things are before they took the job. So yeah... info about Atlas Air payroll is relevant in an Atlas Air Hiring thread.
01-06-2017, 06:51 PM
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90k first year. That's some funny ******!!!! -40k from that number. Unless your a moron and actually help these idiots crash this dump into the ground with the speed brakes up on a CAVU day as they seem hell bent on.
01-07-2017, 12:30 AM
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I think this refers to no shows for new hire class...
Delta (before their new contract)
FedEx
Southwest
and a lot of non-major carriers, like Hawaiian, Atlas, and a number of others...
Originally Posted by PanRobert
Really? Like where?
FedEx
Southwest
and a lot of non-major carriers, like Hawaiian, Atlas, and a number of others...
01-07-2017, 05:42 AM
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I was told the $90K story during the interview as well. I even had a few instructors tell me they cleared $100K their first year. How they managed to work enough/ever saw their own house, I don't know. I also thought, oh great, here's a guy VXing like crazy, thanks for your help buddy!
I did the math and it's impossible if you include per diem (are people including per diem in their pay calcs?), have no delays with OE, and then VX basically every month.
Do I expect to make anywhere near that amount? No!
I'm sure you'll never post here again, but I'll go ahead and pile on. Not caring about what your job pays is pretty darn odd.
I did the math and it's impossible if you include per diem (are people including per diem in their pay calcs?), have no delays with OE, and then VX basically every month.
Do I expect to make anywhere near that amount? No!
Originally Posted by alphonso1
Wow!
The thread is about ATLAS AIR HIRING, Not, ATLAS AIR PAYROLL??
Is there any chance it can get back on the tracks before it totally derails and goes right into the weeds????
I'm on A So Called, " Preferred Hiring " List since I interviewed Last
September 2016
Anything going on at all this year???
The thread is about ATLAS AIR HIRING, Not, ATLAS AIR PAYROLL??
Is there any chance it can get back on the tracks before it totally derails and goes right into the weeds????
I'm on A So Called, " Preferred Hiring " List since I interviewed Last
September 2016
Anything going on at all this year???
01-07-2017, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
I was told the $90K story during the interview as well. I even had a few instructors tell me they cleared $100K their first year. How they managed to work enough/ever saw their own house, I don't know. I also thought, oh great, here's a guy VXing like crazy, thanks for your help buddy!
I did the math and it's impossible if you include per diem (are people including per diem in their pay calcs?), have no delays with OE, and then VX basically every month.
Do I expect to make anywhere near that amount? No!
I'm sure you'll never post here again, but I'll go ahead and pile on. Not caring about what your job pays is pretty darn odd.
I did the math and it's impossible if you include per diem (are people including per diem in their pay calcs?), have no delays with OE, and then VX basically every month.
Do I expect to make anywhere near that amount? No!
I'm sure you'll never post here again, but I'll go ahead and pile on. Not caring about what your job pays is pretty darn odd.
01-07-2017, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
I made a mistake. I meant to say "I did the math and it's possible"
01-07-2017, 02:33 PM
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Here is my first year pay on the 747. Remember this was from August of 2015 to August of 2016, when we had the same amount of flying as now but 200 less pilots so we were all busy. I did not do one day of VX. Was on Training pay for the full 4 months, 71 days in MIA training. OE completed 4 months 2 weeks after start date.
Total earnings were $58,252 for my first 12 months. That is without per diem. Looking at the way we are crewed now, until the first couple hundred leave in the next few months I would not expect much more then min Guarantee. I was surprised I made 58k first year, but up until the last 6 months it was busy. Hope this helps dispel the rumor of 90k first year. It's just not possible unless you are willing to tick off 95 percent of the pilot group here and VX your ass off.
Total earnings were $58,252 for my first 12 months. That is without per diem. Looking at the way we are crewed now, until the first couple hundred leave in the next few months I would not expect much more then min Guarantee. I was surprised I made 58k first year, but up until the last 6 months it was busy. Hope this helps dispel the rumor of 90k first year. It's just not possible unless you are willing to tick off 95 percent of the pilot group here and VX your ass off.
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