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Hey guys, thanks for all the clarification on first year pay. I see profit sharing is being offered at more and more airlines. If a guy was putting in a pool and flying all the relatives out to help dedicate it and already wrote a check that his checking account couldn't cover until his profit sharing check came in, would he be ok?
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Lol.... They really need to update this site and say that there is no profit sharing at Atlas. My first year I got nothing. My 2nd year I got nothing. My 3rd year I got $400, I got $300 in a "Special Distribution" my 4rth year, and I got $600 last year. It certainly won't get you to that phantom "$90K" that HR is telling you you'll make first year. $1300 in 5 years is probably less than what Delta accumulates in 6 months in the right seat of a MD-88 on probation...
Our contract is so horrible that our "Profit Sharing" (or "Special Distribution") is really a shell game where management claims they aren't making money when they are. The money that should've been shared is reinvested in the company and we see none of it.
Does anyone know what they are telling the interviewees about "Profit Sharing" and "Special Distributions" at Atlas?
Our contract is so horrible that our "Profit Sharing" (or "Special Distribution") is really a shell game where management claims they aren't making money when they are. The money that should've been shared is reinvested in the company and we see none of it.
Does anyone know what they are telling the interviewees about "Profit Sharing" and "Special Distributions" at Atlas?
Get the hell out of there if you are young enough.
EDIT: And I'm a lazy ass. No green slipping or picking up straight time. I fly my line and go home. Guys willing to work more made a lot more.
Last edited by hvydvr; 01-08-2017 at 02:56 PM. Reason: Update
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First yr profit sharing at Delta. 320/NYC 11 months total came in just north of $7,000. Doesn't include the 401K they had to put in as well.
Get the hell out of there if you are young enough.
EDIT: And I'm a lazy ass. No green slipping or picking up straight time. I fly my line and go home. Guys willing to work more made a lot more.
Get the hell out of there if you are young enough.
EDIT: And I'm a lazy ass. No green slipping or picking up straight time. I fly my line and go home. Guys willing to work more made a lot more.
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Joined APC: May 2014
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No mention of profit sharing OR special distributions by HR at Dec 2nd interview; 1st year pay was quoted as an average around $70 for the "12 months following IOE" in the 747, and $87K for next 12 months...or better:
.....once again...do not shoot the messenger ... I say again....don't shoot the messenger....who took notes from the slides, and is repeating what HR put out. The way pay was discussed was carefully worded about 12 months following IOE, and very clear that 4 months of $1600.00 could be expected.
I picked up on the way it was carefully presented, but I know Atlas Pilots - and how to separate "1st year pay" from "average of 12 months following IOE". To some it might have sounded like you could get $70k in your 1st year - and that is not what she said.
.....once again...do not shoot the messenger ... I say again....don't shoot the messenger....who took notes from the slides, and is repeating what HR put out. The way pay was discussed was carefully worded about 12 months following IOE, and very clear that 4 months of $1600.00 could be expected.
I picked up on the way it was carefully presented, but I know Atlas Pilots - and how to separate "1st year pay" from "average of 12 months following IOE". To some it might have sounded like you could get $70k in your 1st year - and that is not what she said.
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No mention of profit sharing OR special distributions by HR at Dec 2nd interview; 1st year pay was quoted as an average around $70 for the "12 months following IOE" in the 747, and $87K for next 12 months...or better:
.....once again...do not shoot the messenger ... I say again....don't shoot the messenger....who took notes from the slides, and is repeating what HR put out. The way pay was discussed was carefully worded about 12 months following IOE, and very clear that 4 months of $1600.00 could be expected.
I picked up on the way it was carefully presented, but I know Atlas Pilots - and how to separate "1st year pay" from "average of 12 months following IOE". To some it might have sounded like you could get $70k in your 1st year - and that is not what she said.
.....once again...do not shoot the messenger ... I say again....don't shoot the messenger....who took notes from the slides, and is repeating what HR put out. The way pay was discussed was carefully worded about 12 months following IOE, and very clear that 4 months of $1600.00 could be expected.
I picked up on the way it was carefully presented, but I know Atlas Pilots - and how to separate "1st year pay" from "average of 12 months following IOE". To some it might have sounded like you could get $70k in your 1st year - and that is not what she said.
So by reading the forum pages from November last year, would it be fair to say that ANC and HSV are the junior bases?
If I were to land in Atlas, I would probably relocate to MIA, I assume that would be an impossible base to get right out of training.
With current work rules, would it be better to commute out of MIA to any of the other junior bases or would I be better off just moving the family to the junior base and skip the commute?
I've read a few posts here that have implied that living in base for Atlas is not as beneficial as It is for other airlines, hence the question...
Thanks folks!
FS
If I were to land in Atlas, I would probably relocate to MIA, I assume that would be an impossible base to get right out of training.
With current work rules, would it be better to commute out of MIA to any of the other junior bases or would I be better off just moving the family to the junior base and skip the commute?
I've read a few posts here that have implied that living in base for Atlas is not as beneficial as It is for other airlines, hence the question...
Thanks folks!
FS
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So by reading the forum pages from November last year, would it be fair to say that ANC and HSV are the junior bases?
If I were to land in Atlas, I would probably relocate to MIA, I assume that would be an impossible base to get right out of training.
With current work rules, would it be better to commute out of MIA to any of the other junior bases or would I be better off just moving the family to the junior base and skip the commute?
I've read a few posts here that have implied that living in base for Atlas is not as beneficial as It is for other airlines, hence the question...
Thanks folks!
FS
If I were to land in Atlas, I would probably relocate to MIA, I assume that would be an impossible base to get right out of training.
With current work rules, would it be better to commute out of MIA to any of the other junior bases or would I be better off just moving the family to the junior base and skip the commute?
I've read a few posts here that have implied that living in base for Atlas is not as beneficial as It is for other airlines, hence the question...
Thanks folks!
FS
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Live In Base
If you want quality of life at Atlas, consider Cincinnati. It is the DHL North American hub. It is the junior base on the 767, and you could probably get it within the year on the 747. It makes airport reserve on the 767 side a lot more tolerable, and for some airport reserve is even desirable.
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