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Old 01-14-2017, 10:16 AM   #15401
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Headquarters. 8AM. Yourself and your logbook.
Please ignore this troll and get the correct information.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:21 AM   #15402
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Headquarters. 8AM. Yourself and your logbook.
Yeah that looked a little suspicious.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:27 AM   #15403
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Has anyone been offered the Feb. 6th B767 class? If not, how far in advance do they typically call you for a class?

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Old 01-15-2017, 01:59 AM   #15404
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Has anyone been offered the Feb. 6th B767 class? If not, how far in advance do they typically call you for a class?



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They typically wait until right up to two weeks prior to making calls. So the Thursday or Friday two weeks prior is a good bet.
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:44 AM   #15405
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Thanks for the quick reply Pave. I'll appreciate if someone can shed some info about the QOL on the 76 side and how does it compares to the 74. I know that the 74 is mostly doing long haul trips and the 76 is mostly used for night DHL domestic ops. However it would be great if someone can share their schedule on the 76. Is it mostly on a 17 on/13 off schedule? How's reserve life? Is it better to live in base vs commuting? Thanks all!
It pays 17% less.

Sharing a schedule would be pointless. Varies too much. Lately 60-day lines (multiple pairings) seem to be more numerous than 17-day lines on a 30-day bid.

Reserve is either hotel reserve or airport hot standby. I flew 18 hours last month on reserve. YMMV.

Living in CVG would mean more time at home, or sitting reserve at home. Is that better than commuting? Only you can answer that.
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:32 PM   #15406
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Living in base would be great for QOL on the 767 because your Reserve would actually leave you at home. Pay sucks so when you hear us say $50K first year, it won't be much better than that 2nd year. It's still 17 days a month IF the company wants you that many. You either do long haul out of Japan or DHL short hops state side. Both are easy to hold from what I understand. The AMC stuff goes senior out of JFK. I'd find a way to live in base because if you sit Reserve all of those hotels will be imputed.
Section 31 says the company will provide lodging if the designated R2 location is the crewmember's base (or any other location that isn't the crewmember's base).

Correct me if I'm wrong (FNG here so I probably don't know what I'm talking about), but if the company has to provide lodging to everyone shouldn't it not be imputed? My understanding is imputed income happens because one pilot (who does not live in base) gets a benefit (gateway/hotel) that another pilot (who does live in base) does not get.

I'm scheduled to sit R2 later this month so I have more than a passing interest in this...
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Old 01-15-2017, 02:50 PM   #15407
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Section 31 says the company will provide lodging if the designated R2 location is the crewmember's base (or any other location that isn't the crewmember's base).

Correct me if I'm wrong (FNG here so I probably don't know what I'm talking about), but if the company has to provide lodging to everyone shouldn't it not be imputed? My understanding is imputed income happens because one pilot (who does not live in base) gets a benefit (gateway/hotel) that another pilot (who does live in base) does not get.

I'm scheduled to sit R2 later this month so I have more than a passing interest in this...
Per agreement with the Union, you will not be imputed while sitting R2. And basically your right. You can be imputed on Gateway travel in and out of your base on the 1st and last day of your pattern (or patterns).
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:17 PM   #15408
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It's imputed because the company claims that your base is your "Place of Business"...where all of your trips start and end. Actually, for some bases, your base is your workplace, but for other bases, like JFK, your Gateway or your home is your workplace...where your trips start and end. The company doesn't want to try and figure out which bases are actually where trips start and end, and which aren't.

We have the cost of commuting imputed because we are the ONLY aviation organization that has pilot Bases AND Gateways.

At DAL, your base is where your trips start and end.They don't pay for the commute, so there's no imputed income. For companies like Kalitta, which are home based, your trips start and end at home. Since Atlas has Bases, AND they Gateway you to/from your base (part of the time), it is a company paid benefit that they pay for you to travel (commute) to your workplace...your base. It is like when a company lets the mgmt and/or family use the bizjet for vacation...the cost of the trip is (supposed to be) imputed as income.
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Old 01-15-2017, 07:05 PM   #15409
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Per agreement with the Union, you will not be imputed while sitting R2.
Except that many of us HAVE BEEN IMPUTED, including me. I got hit for a two week R2/R3 period in CVG (entire hotel bill) and so did some of my classmates. And the word "imputed" is no where to be found in the CBA.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:15 PM   #15410
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Except that many of us HAVE BEEN IMPUTED, including me. I got hit for a two week R2/R3 period in CVG (entire hotel bill) and so did some of my classmates. And the word "imputed" is no where to be found in the CBA.
I have never heard of this "agreement" others speak of. Do us all a favor and contact the union and let us know what they know of the agreement and ask about contesting the imputation. Thanks.
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