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Old 02-07-2017, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8 Driver View Post
I can't believe I've invested a decade of my life into this place. Apps are out.
Yep, and I know of several others that have said this was the last straw. Poorly played Mr D.
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Old 02-07-2017, 04:21 PM
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Do you have apps out?
Absolutely have apps out.

Not only that but I could no longer recommend this place to anyone. It's not even worth the type.
Horrific,y low first year pay
Current contract that is sub par on every level
Holes in contract that effect your quality of life and pay every month
Managements steadfast to force a new merged contact and call it good? Means sub par contract for probably the rest of the life of this airline.
The current mass exodus of everyone here, youre risking coming to just be furloughed.

Run run run far away from this place. Don't look back. You're better off just about anywhere.
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Old 02-07-2017, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cousteau135 View Post
Yep, and I know of several others that have said this was the last straw. Poorly played Mr D.
Exactly, last straw. I've got 27 years left if I can hold a medical, and I'm not about to invest another 6 months into this place if I can help it. Assuming that I'm fortunate enough to be hired by a real airline.
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Old 02-07-2017, 06:44 PM
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I've been at Atlas a little over six years now. Loved flying the 747. Switched to the left seat in the 767 a couple years ago and, after a short what in the heck did I do to myself period, am loving the 767 as well. Truthfully I have really enjoyed my time here.

All of the negative things that people post here are pretty much dead on. You can be away from home an awful lot, they can screw up your schedule without even trying, and the pay has a ways to go.

That said, working here has a ton of pluses if you like this kind of flying. If you have a super supportive family at home and can deal with some of the curve balls this place throws at you its actually a pretty neat place to work. Totally my opinion of course...

Sadly, today we received another letter from upper management that indicates to me that they truly don't give a rats ass about us, the viability of the company, or that they have any scruples whatsoever. I've never advocated that anyone avoid Atlas before, quite the contrary, but now I feel that I must warn anyone and everyone away from this place.

Do not come to Atlas Air. There has always been some question as to the quality of people that come here, there will be no question anymore...this place should be reserved for those that can't get a flying job anywhere else...
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:06 PM
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time to gtfo!
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:31 PM
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Atlas has been in business for 25 years. The pilots have been allowed to vote on a contract exactly once. Think about that. Just once in two & a half decades. Now making 45-60% less than industry standard contracts - with work rules that are blown away by even most regional airlines.

This looks like the corporate version of CFIT. No situational awareness due to intentional inattention.

I can only imagine the phone calls from customers & shareholders when the planes stop moving due to the exodus.
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Old 02-08-2017, 03:08 AM
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The spirit of Lorenzo, alive and well at AAWH. This is straight from the Lorenzo play book but be warned if you come here and the Union win this lawsuit (unlikely with the current anti labor judiciary.) The very next "play" in the book is FURLOUGH. This tactic is to scare the triumphant unionists into voting for a substandard contract anyway to keep their now in jeopardy jobs. We have the lowest morale in the industry but in the words of Bachman Turner Overdrive........you ain't seen nothin yet!
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Old 02-08-2017, 05:23 AM
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I was holding out on updating apps for any sign of common sense. This management are a bunch of has beens living in the past. Just like everything in life that can't adapt......dies.

Apps out!
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:22 AM
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Phone call....WF to JD..

WF...."So JD, what's the latest Atlas Air Pilot retention plan?"

JD...."We are going to sue the sh1t out of em boss!"

WF...."UHHH..very well..release the hounds!"
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Old 02-08-2017, 09:23 AM
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Management's ideaology: "Why negotiate when you can litigate?"

If you're at Atlas and haven't been updating your apps, you are way behind the power curve in my humble opinion. The place is a sinking ship. I'm only mad because I've help guys get hired at Atlas.
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