Atlas Air Hiring
02-21-2018, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle driver
Isn't the company required to negotiate in goo faith? How is not showing up/showing up late, good faith? If the company is not willing to negotiate should the union be released to self help?
02-22-2018, 12:26 PM
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What are the upcoming classes?
747 or 767 or both?
Do trips normally begin/end in base or is there considerable deadheading?
How long is upgrade these days?
How long are layovers, typically? Meaning, the faraway ones like Hong Kong and Tokyo for example? Ever any time to get out and explore or is it often min-rest?
747 or 767 or both?
Do trips normally begin/end in base or is there considerable deadheading?
How long is upgrade these days?
How long are layovers, typically? Meaning, the faraway ones like Hong Kong and Tokyo for example? Ever any time to get out and explore or is it often min-rest?
02-22-2018, 09:54 PM
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Upgrade times are about 2.5 years for the 767 and it will probably go to about 2 years by the end of the year. Of course at the end of the year we will have all 20 Amazon 767's and then upgrade will start to go back up
As for the 747, it was 3.5 years about a year ago. But we have not upgraded to the 747 for over 8 months and we probably won't upgrade for several more. Plus the seat locks for 767 Capts have been expiring AND alot of pilots have bypassed the 767 upgrade. The expectation is the 747 upgrade is probably on its way back up to over 5 years
If you are coming on board soon, you probably will be looking at 3 plus years for the 767 and 5 years plus for the 747. Once the last 8 767 are on board at the end of the year, upgrade times will go back to normal
As for the 747, it was 3.5 years about a year ago. But we have not upgraded to the 747 for over 8 months and we probably won't upgrade for several more. Plus the seat locks for 767 Capts have been expiring AND alot of pilots have bypassed the 767 upgrade. The expectation is the 747 upgrade is probably on its way back up to over 5 years
If you are coming on board soon, you probably will be looking at 3 plus years for the 767 and 5 years plus for the 747. Once the last 8 767 are on board at the end of the year, upgrade times will go back to normal
02-23-2018, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
We'd have to win a few law suits too since management is attempting to force us to merge contracts where we wouldn't be allowed to vote on a contract. We'd be forced to Arbitration where the Union and company couldn't agree. Getting released means you end up at impasses and probably no votes on TAs and then you're released. I think maybe 1 airline has been released in the last 10 years... For reference Kalitta went 6 years without a new contract and had voted yes to strike but wasn't released. Putting it simply.... Probably more than 6 years would go by before we'd be released and even then there'd be no guarantee of that. You'd be better off at a different airline by then should you end up at Atlas.
02-23-2018, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Guinnesslovr
I applied, with plenty of the qualifications, nothing yet. Any rhyme or reason to who they call for an interview?
Imagine a world class symphony orchestra. Atlas is not like that.
02-23-2018, 07:34 AM
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Management is absolutely right.
There is no "dumpster fire" as the union claims. The place is not in a hopeless free fall. Far from it in fact, as is evidenced by the 2017 earnings and 2018 predictions.
This thread will continue to get the idiotically myopic questions such as "oh boy will I get a lot of time in Hong Kong?" from the "it's marginally better than my last sweatshop gulag" crowd of potential new hires.
Simply, incoming new hires means no problem, means no contract.
Reading into discussion on the latest earnings call, management clearly is projecting that they can sustain this modus operandi at least through the end of 2018.
There is no "dumpster fire" as the union claims. The place is not in a hopeless free fall. Far from it in fact, as is evidenced by the 2017 earnings and 2018 predictions.
This thread will continue to get the idiotically myopic questions such as "oh boy will I get a lot of time in Hong Kong?" from the "it's marginally better than my last sweatshop gulag" crowd of potential new hires.
Simply, incoming new hires means no problem, means no contract.
Reading into discussion on the latest earnings call, management clearly is projecting that they can sustain this modus operandi at least through the end of 2018.
Last edited by JT8D; 02-23-2018 at 07:48 AM.
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