Davetastic

Your constant bashing and criticism of union dues paying members that have a differing opinion as to the union political message is contradictory to your message of unity. If you want someone to march to your tune but yet ehy seem reluctant to join, perhaps you should change what you are playing hmmm?

I did not propagate the "data theft" incident. I mentioned it in passing in a previous post but I was most certainly not the one whom originated the idea nor was I the only one to inquire about it. But I should point out that to conjure up the idea that "management rub their hands together in glee" is nothing short of paranoia! LMFAO!!!

I have never said that an opinion is wrong. I just offer my perspective. And to ALL reading....there is nothing wrong with life not being that bad at Atlas. Life is a matter of perspective but it doesn't and shouldn't be equated with not wanting or working for a better contract! And to say that my opinion "assists" in company recruitment efforts is far reaching to say the least. Man...keep it up....you are looking worse the more you write.


You are such a hypocrite! You "flaunt" your position but tell me to be quiet?! I will not. But seriously, if you or any other union officer were to approach me in private and demonstrate the seriousness and/or magnitude of your claim that my opinion is a detriment to our cause then why have I not heard from you?

I DONT think the company uses these boards and there has been no evidence to support your claim. NO PROOF!! Show me the proof! If you have no proof....5TFU! To quote Knox, "No substance, just baseless claims...more lies".

As do you....have the right to say whatever you want no matter the nonsense...but I have never lied!! I just offer my perspective and opinion and call out the BS that you and others spew...in the interest of dampening the hysteria, hyperbole and histrionics.

You keep slamming me but you and I agree on most things so why do you persist in making me your favorite target? No matter. Don't answer...I don't care about your online persona. You are "fake news".

I fly the contract + I pay dues + I volunteer = I support the union.

Davetastic

This is true. There was a lot of back and forth between the moderators, when there was still use of moderators on the 1224 web forum on how to proceed with many posts that had a dissenting opinions. Rather than approve posts, certain moderators denied them claiming it violated terms of service.

The forum became very unpopular quickly after inception because it took longer than posters were willing to wait for approved posts hence it went widely unused. But, even if it were shut down only because of 2 or 3 "long winded" posters, it lends credibility to SI's claim of censorship. It should NEVER have been shut down because of a difference of opinion.

Davetastic

Thanks. But you answered only the part of my post where I merely mentioned in passing "apparent data theft". What say you about the "less is more strategy" from our EXCO instead of hijacking this forum with the attrition campaign?

suddenimpact

Imagine my amazement when I saw a post on there about fifteen days (then three days old) ago that looks like it was some sort of email response to a Birthday thanks accidentally sent to the forums in error since nothing else existed for him to respond to and then a submission on another thread eight days ago asking if posting was approved there again. One post has 24 views and 17 on what has been a killed forum.

I imagine they don't want our dirty laundry out in the open, not realizing that was the only option they gave everyone, but I'm just guessing.

Very surprising for the number of views considering:

1. Posts by the general membership were stopped by removing the moderators about 4 months ago.
2. This was never announced beforehand.
3. This forced everyone else to go to the GC_Comms Facebook page later said tong-in-check that it wasn't an "official union source" nudge-nudge, wink-wink while to this day questions are taken from it on crew calls.
4. They still don't list moderators now like they did before.
5. The resumption of service as limited as it is was never announce so no one knows they are up again.

Yep, this smells a lot.

Definitely.

This much time without access due to moderators being removed silently and then the forum silently restarts only makes me more suspicious. Guess they see how bad this looks now.

Agreed.

I'm curious what drove this recent re-opening of the Atlas forums that was never announced by our leadership? Without an announcement, who would know they are back? Why would anyone go back or trust them to allow all posts allowed per the TOS considering the past behavior and deceit.

2xAGM114

Considering the move over to the 767 side. Can someone who is currently flying the 7-6 say what hours you block in an average month? Typical schedule still 7 on / 7 off?

CaptainHvac

If you are implying you are already at Atlas then you can look the bidlines up very simply by yourself and see. Block hours about 300-400hrs per year or so, although I did just over 200 my first year. I have never had a true "7 on/7 off" on the 767. More like 10 on, 7 off, or 17 on, 13 off.

RandomPerson

LOL. Block hours? 'bout 30-40/month.

Typical schedule is everything. Could be 3 day trips. Could be 17 day trips. It's a mix'n'mach grab bag of everything in between.

Honestly, the "average domestic line" is about what you describe, 7 on 7 off. CRT credit rarely goes above 70 hours. I average about 65 hours of credit and make within 10% what I made as an F/O on the 747. Expect about $130,000 per year as a 767 captain at Atlas Air. I'm sure the top 10% fleet seniority JFK based people and VX'ers make more, but good luck breaking into that club.

Reason credit is so low: lots of short trips = lots of partial CRT days. You're certainly not getting a full 17 days of CRT credit. Plus side is a lot of lines are only built to 15 days or so, if you don't like to fly, work (or make money), it's not too bad.

2xAGM114

Thanks for the info.

boeingdvr

New hire class today. Only 50% showed up. Nothing to see here.

Atrasaty

With the Southern Pilots on the Atlas contract, subject to ratification, it appears there will be no "contracts" to arbitrate and amalgamate. Can combined section 6 start once that is done? Probably not but Nothing short of parity was achieved it appears.