JackStraw

No they actively avoid scheduling you to your base for that very reason.

plift

ANC Does see a decent number of lines with one or two in base layovers. They’ve hired a lot of ANC locals over the last few years though, so may take a little time to consistently hold those. As long as its flights that typically go on schedule (ie, Not Boeing or AMC), those layovers usually hold up. MIA is the best for that but really senior. The other 74 bases typically start out with heavy crew flights on their first leg so they really don’t want you to get back to base for a layover because they’d owe heavy rest.

BluePAX

I really have to disagree with that statement from personal experience. Maybe mine was worse than yours.

FlyingAlly

are they really hiring at 1500hrs with an ATP? I think thats pretty low for a first officer on a 74.

dera

No they're not. If you apply, you'll get a reply back saying you're not competitive for the "larger gauge" Atlas planes, but how about 737 at Southern.

atpcliff

Sounds like the lower time pilots are going to Southern, and the higher time ones to Atlas. ALL new hire classes are short of people, except maybe the 777 for Southern. They just cut the hoped-for Atlas 747/767 class sizes in half, because only about half of the new hire class seats were being filled.

JonnyKnoxville

...and now the training failure rate is going through the roof at both Southern and Atlas. The knee jerk reaction to the accident I guess. These standards should have been in place for the three years leading up to the accident when we all were pleading with management to do something to prevent it.

Flyboy88

You think the failure rates are tied to the accident?

BayBum4Ever

More information for anyone considering Atlas/Southern/ABX Air

https://pilotsdeservebetter.org

BayBum

V1AutoPilot

How bad is it currently at Atlas? I understand management is horrible and refuses to negotiate -likely stretching a new agreement out 3 years at least (and that's hopeful). Schedule is grueling 17+ days and pay is worse than a regional. By the time a new contract comes it'll be industry low in no time. That or with ACMI Atlas contracts business out and Furloughs pilots or just up and starts another company -perks of parent company + multiple holdings. Someone told me Frank Lorenzo is behind the scenes.

Western Global is still fairly new, benefits aren't the best, but pay is fair and upgrade time is quick. Schedule is better from my understanding.

For someone looking for pay and QOL over 3-4 years, Western Global or Atlas? Atlas 747 / WG MD-11. Anticipate offers with both. Highly qualified. Time sensitive, thank you all very much in advance. Please honest and informative posts..