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Old 09-16-2019, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by V1AutoPilot View Post
No K4, and I've read a fair amount of the threads. Plenty of friends at Atlas and WG. Many on 767 / 747 for Atlas.

Leaning towards Atlas seeing as I don't mind working extra for some pay. Probably stay until Delta or Southwest offers come (probably 5-8 years on a conservative estimate). Heavy type and international experience can never hurt.

I suppose I just don't want to go into Atlas blind and find any strongly sickening info too late. Care to hit me with some mines I'll be dodging? Besides the whipsaw and contract negotiations. If Atlas wants to keep Amazon a contract is inevitable and I imagine will be Kalitta pay at minimum for industry standard.

You can not count on over time. It comes and goes, now with aircraft moving to other operators it’s going somewhere else.
OT goes senior, so as a junior pilot you’ll see very little.

BUT if you’re lucky enough to get overtime, you’ve already put in 17 days of work and don’t forget the two days of travel =19 days.
Now you want to fly more? You’re putting yourself out almost the entire month. Guys do it. But they have no life and no family. They actually consider their family and fun time at work.

When you can’t hold OT, you’re other option is out basing = scheduling ***** for the whole month. Not at home, some other country.


Atlas training is dismal at best, you jeopardize your ticket with a failure.
And once on line, scheduling will hook you up with a potential violation when they secretly removed the safety flags for scheduling hours. There are over a 100 currently affected.
Maintenance is a constant battle to make sure they don’t pencil whip aircraft (which they do). There’s a long list of reasons not to come here, so I would keep researching before you jump in.

If Atless gets their wish wages will be suppressed another 8 years at current book. I think that’s a death wish but their wish none the less.
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:47 AM
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Once again stonewalled at the negotiating table. This company is constantly playing fast and loose with our careers. While other companies are currently in Section 6 and enacting mid-contract raises to remain competitive in an attempt to corner the pilot market, Atlas is determined to win an arbitrated, amalgamated contract while the talent leaves for greener pastures. This company is a hollow shell of what it used to be and what it could have been. They're even getting destroyed and called out about their weird tactics by their investors on earnings calls. Atlas is a dumpster fire. I'm a 747 Captain weighing a move back to the regionals. It's just not worth my time anymore. I'm leaving tons of money and quality of life on the table while the company tries to bet against proven economic principles.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
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‘Anti-labor judge’
‘Pro corporate arbitration’
Those terms are getting old bro, so are loosing strategies.
It doesn't matter if it's Teamsters or ALPA or any other union in the US. It is VERY VERY difficult for us workers and our unions: Our Politicians have voted in anti-worker laws, policies and regulations over the years. The mid-50s us workers had the highest share of the company pie. Since Reagan, especially, everything has changed so that the 0.1% get more and more and more.

To change things so that Us Workers are on a level playing field with the 0.1%, will require Us to vote in Politicians that are pro-worker, and pro-America, instead of pro-0.1%.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Transition View Post
Once again stonewalled at the negotiating table. This company is constantly playing fast and loose with our careers. While other companies are currently in Section 6 and enacting mid-contract raises to remain competitive in an attempt to corner the pilot market, Atlas is determined to win an arbitrated, amalgamated contract while the talent leaves for greener pastures. This company is a hollow shell of what it used to be and what it could have been. They're even getting destroyed and called out about their weird tactics by their investors on earnings calls. Atlas is a dumpster fire. I'm a 747 Captain weighing a move back to the regionals. It's just not worth my time anymore. I'm leaving tons of money and quality of life on the table while the company tries to bet against proven economic principles.
Every organization (and person) in Our Universe is either improving, or degenerating. Right now Atlas is degenerating, because our upper management did not understand the Pilot Shortage situation when they planned their strategy for our new contract.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
Every organization (and person) in Our Universe is either improving, or degenerating. Right now Atlas is degenerating, because our upper management did not understand the Pilot Shortage situation when they planned their strategy for our new contract.
Everybody has a purpose in life - even if only as an object lesson for others. While Atlas going under will be a tragedy for the senior pilots who will lose seniority it will actually be a good thing for most of us as it underlines the fact that this isn’t 2005 and contracts really do need to be competitive to other management groups and even the NMB.

Suing your pilot group may not be a strategy other management groups want to emulate.
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Old 11-22-2019, 11:17 AM
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Another loss in court. Things get worse and worse at Atlas Air. Flight instructing is starting to sound better.
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Old 11-22-2019, 12:22 PM
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Another loss for the Teamsters in court.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:48 PM
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Bingo. I’m sure we will file another meaningless appeal and extend this process even further. All in! Durrrrrrrr
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:20 PM
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With support and enthusiasm like that, how could we ever lose anything?

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Old 11-22-2019, 02:33 PM
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With support and enthusiasm like that, how could we ever lose anything?

I paid $6,000 in union dues and assessments this year, that was my support and enthusiasm. All in! Keep those newhire pizzas, lanyards, booting and shopping, winery retreats, retarded ATAMs, steak dinners and endless UB coming! It’s a winning strategy and the company is really feeling the pain!
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