Atlas Air Hiring
There are a lot of things that I don't say out of fear of reprisal. There are things that I could say that would out my anonymity in a heart beat.
For anyone considering Atlas, think about something as small/ "trivial" as this. The company purposely negotiates breakfast out of room rates even if it has no effect on cost. They even tried to force one of our German hotels to cancel our breakfast, but he stood up for us and told them he would charge them more to deny us breakfast.
But don't let the $66 million burn a hole in your pockets boys...
For anyone considering Atlas, think about something as small/ "trivial" as this. The company purposely negotiates breakfast out of room rates even if it has no effect on cost. They even tried to force one of our German hotels to cancel our breakfast, but he stood up for us and told them he would charge them more to deny us breakfast.
But don't let the $66 million burn a hole in your pockets boys...
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 126
I didn't call you management, just that they would appreciate what you are doing here. Thought pointing out your error interpreting my post may help you better pick apart all the literal meanings and possible exaggerations of negative posts about the company.
There are a lot of things that I don't say out of fear of reprisal. There are things that I could say that would out my anonymity in a heart beat.
For anyone considering Atlas, think about something as small/ "trivial" as this. The company purposely negotiates breakfast out of room rates even if it has no effect on cost. They even tried to force one of our German hotels to cancel our breakfast, but he stood up for us and told them he would charge them more to deny us breakfast.
But don't let the $66 million burn a hole in your pockets boys...
For anyone considering Atlas, think about something as small/ "trivial" as this. The company purposely negotiates breakfast out of room rates even if it has no effect on cost. They even tried to force one of our German hotels to cancel our breakfast, but he stood up for us and told them he would charge them more to deny us breakfast.
But don't let the $66 million burn a hole in your pockets boys...
^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^
...is what factual data looks like, and how to say it.
Thanks very much. Keep at it....as will I.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 48
Earnings report out******
They highlight record revenue year over year.....
Very quietly mention addition of southern air later. In addition to:
-increase liabilities
-alarming substantial decrease in cash
-20 million in mx apparently pushed into 2017 Q1....their words imply.
-overall decrease in revenue per block hour almost completely across the board.
Here's a thought. Negotiate an industry standard contract= substantial decrease in training costs after a year, sustainable expansion, increased revenue with the ability to actually pilot the existing fleet aircraft.
Mngmnt response.....court papers.
They highlight record revenue year over year.....
Very quietly mention addition of southern air later. In addition to:
-increase liabilities
-alarming substantial decrease in cash
-20 million in mx apparently pushed into 2017 Q1....their words imply.
-overall decrease in revenue per block hour almost completely across the board.
Here's a thought. Negotiate an industry standard contract= substantial decrease in training costs after a year, sustainable expansion, increased revenue with the ability to actually pilot the existing fleet aircraft.
Mngmnt response.....court papers.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 83
Earnings report out******
They highlight record revenue year over year.....
Very quietly mention addition of southern air later. In addition to:
-increase liabilities
-alarming substantial decrease in cash
-20 million in mx apparently pushed into 2017 Q1....their words imply.
-overall decrease in revenue per block hour almost completely across the board.
Here's a thought. Negotiate an industry standard contract= substantial decrease in training costs after a year, sustainable expansion, increased revenue with the ability to actually pilot the existing fleet aircraft.
Mngmnt response.....court papers.
They highlight record revenue year over year.....
Very quietly mention addition of southern air later. In addition to:
-increase liabilities
-alarming substantial decrease in cash
-20 million in mx apparently pushed into 2017 Q1....their words imply.
-overall decrease in revenue per block hour almost completely across the board.
Here's a thought. Negotiate an industry standard contract= substantial decrease in training costs after a year, sustainable expansion, increased revenue with the ability to actually pilot the existing fleet aircraft.
Mngmnt response.....court papers.
Additionally on investor call "no anticipated increases in pay for 2017"
This will be a long road for a new contract.
FULL RETRO + INTREST
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 505
Hey y'all. I was with a 76 CA a few weeks back talking about Atlas and I have some questions I'd like to throw at ya.
1) I've heard new hire FO's have it hard at Atlas (long training delays, poor pay due to taxes, not a lot of trips.) is the issue with that part of the contract disputes or just general lack of flying and overhiring?
2) The CA told me his QoL is great as far as scheduling, trips, and earning potential is concerned. I know he's been with the company for a long time but I am curious how long it would take an FO to be comfortable at Atlas?
3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?
Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
1) I've heard new hire FO's have it hard at Atlas (long training delays, poor pay due to taxes, not a lot of trips.) is the issue with that part of the contract disputes or just general lack of flying and overhiring?
2) The CA told me his QoL is great as far as scheduling, trips, and earning potential is concerned. I know he's been with the company for a long time but I am curious how long it would take an FO to be comfortable at Atlas?
3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?
Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
Hey y'all. I was with a 76 CA a few weeks back talking about Atlas and I have some questions I'd like to throw at ya.
1) I've heard new hire FO's have it hard at Atlas (long training delays, poor pay due to taxes, not a lot of trips.) is the issue with that part of the contract disputes or just general lack of flying and overhiring?
2) The CA told me his QoL is great as far as scheduling, trips, and earning potential is concerned. I know he's been with the company for a long time but I am curious how long it would take an FO to be comfortable at Atlas?
3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?
Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
1) I've heard new hire FO's have it hard at Atlas (long training delays, poor pay due to taxes, not a lot of trips.) is the issue with that part of the contract disputes or just general lack of flying and overhiring?
2) The CA told me his QoL is great as far as scheduling, trips, and earning potential is concerned. I know he's been with the company for a long time but I am curious how long it would take an FO to be comfortable at Atlas?
3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?
Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
OTOH, you are apparently an optimist. Did I understand that correctly? That being said, I too am of the opinion that Atlas is a pure gamble and I am gambling with my career that we will get a decent enough of a contract for me to stay......EVENTUALLY.
3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?
Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
So would I consider recommending Atlas right now? No. I'm a 74 Captain seriously considering giving up my seniority and moving on. If that doesn't answer your question, then apply and roll the bones. Once on board, keep your head down during your probationary year and get the Union/Captain/or crew involved when the company tries to pressure you into voluntarily violating the contract or regulatory guidance.
Finally, do you have the PIC and other intangibles required to be competitive with carriers that have more enlightened management labor relations? If not, stay at Endeavor for a little while longer and make yourself competitive. If you come here, it's very possible you'll be stuck in the expansion equipment or be offered a position with SA and flounder there for a long time on substandard pay and work rules.
On a lighter note, 2 days until SEA spring training games begin! Good luck in your future WhiskeyKilo.
Cousteau
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