Atlas Air Hiring
11-28-2018, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Yup. For sure Atlas is just great if you have been flying jalopies for 200 bucks a month. The problem here is that the new hires are comparing Atlas to where they came from and those of us already here compare it to where we should be. The fact that a guy has been flying open cockpit crop dusters and we have pressurization shouldn't be the metric by which we are measured. Atlas pilots will never get the contract that we deserve if pilots have no idea of their own worth.
I am reminded of a conversation that I had years ago when the captain of the United plane I was jumpseating on asked me if I would be willing to fly left seat in his 767 for 150 bucks an hour. As a brand new regional pilot I said "sure, I'd love to". He turned to his FO and said "See, THAT's what we're up against".
Know your worth.
I am reminded of a conversation that I had years ago when the captain of the United plane I was jumpseating on asked me if I would be willing to fly left seat in his 767 for 150 bucks an hour. As a brand new regional pilot I said "sure, I'd love to". He turned to his FO and said "See, THAT's what we're up against".
Know your worth.
11-29-2018, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Yup. For sure Atlas is just great if you have been flying jalopies for 200 bucks a month. The problem here is that the new hires are comparing Atlas to where they came from and those of us already here compare it to where we should be. The fact that a guy has been flying open cockpit crop dusters and we have pressurization shouldn't be the metric by which we are measured. Atlas pilots will never get the contract that we deserve if pilots have no idea of their own worth.
I am reminded of a conversation that I had years ago when the captain of the United plane I was jumpseating on asked me if I would be willing to fly left seat in his 767 for 150 bucks an hour. As a brand new regional pilot I said "sure, I'd love to". He turned to his FO and said "See, THAT's what we're up against".
Know your worth.
I am reminded of a conversation that I had years ago when the captain of the United plane I was jumpseating on asked me if I would be willing to fly left seat in his 767 for 150 bucks an hour. As a brand new regional pilot I said "sure, I'd love to". He turned to his FO and said "See, THAT's what we're up against".
Know your worth.
At almost no time in history have pilots been in a better position to get
great contracts but pilots need to wake tf up and stop playing into the hands of the multimillionaire bosses that are tossing out slightly more crumbs than the last Mom & Pop shop you worked for. Stop rewarding bad behavior. The jobs will still be there - after industry standard contracts are signed. Coming before only pushes any new contract way down the road. Trying to 'game the system" because you like to believe the BS they are dishing out about a new contract "is right around the corner" so I should get in now is nonsensical. They have been telling people this for years and here we are with no negotiations taking place. Nada. Have some self respect for your worth as well as your profession. When fresh bodies stop showing up - for all these empty promises - that is when they will finally change their ways.
11-30-2018, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
I agree with many of the points made, but I can't fault a pilot for trying to escape whatever mess they're in by coming here. The system is at fault, not the individual pilot.
It's too easy to fool ourselves, especially when you see a 747 and something new and seemingly exciting over the horizon. Anyway, its just so important to be honest with ourselves, to those considering coming and most importantly, to those working here. The first step to recovery is admitting the problem right?
12-05-2018, 04:53 AM
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As a reference I have done 657 block hours on the 747 so far this year. My ADP statement shows a YTD gross of $107K. I've been here less than 3 years. Atlas had added a little over $5k in 401k match, plus about $10k in per diem. True numbers. I take a good bit of time off as well in the year.
12-08-2018, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojouo
As a reference I have done 657 block hours on the 747 so far this year. My ADP statement shows a YTD gross of $107K. I've been here less than 3 years. Atlas had added a little over $5k in 401k match, plus about $10k in per diem. True numbers. I take a good bit of time off as well in the year.
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