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Old 01-18-2020, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
The FAA is about ticking boxes and only about ticking boxes.
Nobody at the FAA would ever attempt to change anything for fear of making waves.
Examples?
Every NW36th street operator has a POI
Every scumbag 135 has a POI
Boeing has FAA oversight....
And Boeing is on NW36th Street in Miami. I'm seeing the connection!

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Old 01-18-2020, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
The FAA is about ticking boxes and only about ticking boxes.
Nobody at the FAA would ever attempt to change anything for fear of making waves.
Examples?
Every NW36th street operator has a POI
Every scumbag 135 has a POI
Boeing has FAA oversight....
It's a valid point but when Atlas crashes a passenger jet or there are more casualties than just the crew I personally believe that the general public is going to finally have some questions. While I certainly don't hope to see that I fear it's simply a matter of time. You can't have the hiring practices that Atlas has gotten away with and not have crashes. All of these problem children will now be upgrading with new problem children in the right seat... Some will meet the standard even if it's enforced.

I think one or two crashes down the road is when the FAA starts getting called out for not shutting this down.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
The FAA is about ticking boxes and only about ticking boxes.
Nobody at the FAA would ever attempt to change anything for fear of making waves.
Examples?
Every NW36th street operator has a POI
Every scumbag 135 has a POI
Boeing has FAA oversight....
I wonder if you can see how incredibly unproductive and corrosive your comments have been through the course of all these threads?

Allow me to provide a very brief synopsis of your "amalgamated" comments:

"Atlas sucks."
"The union sucks."
"The FAA sucks."

Did I miss anything? How about providing some comments that are constructive and forward thinking for a change? Have a great weekend.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post

Outside of Atlas the system needs to be reformed to where standardized training records are made automatically available for your interview. That would've ended CA's career and saved lives (including his...). I don't believe that even Atlas would've hired him had they known....
There is a program in the works where air carriers would submit pilot training records to a central registry and an air carrier hiring pilots would submit their request to the registry and not just the air carriers on the applicant's resume. But it’s been moving at the speed of government. I’ve got a feeling the Houston crash may expedite it.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zerozero View Post
I wonder if you can see how incredibly unproductive and corrosive your comments have been through the course of all these threads?

Allow me to provide a very brief synopsis of your "amalgamated" comments:

"Atlas sucks."
"The union sucks."
"The FAA sucks."
.
Well you’ve got the first one wrong.
The other two...we can argue about.
Talk about being positive, your posting history shows all you do here is wail and moan on Atlas/AAWH/ATI/Southern threads.
You’re like the resident violinist.
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Old 01-21-2020, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp View Post
There is a program in the works where air carriers would submit pilot training records to a central registry and an air carrier hiring pilots would submit their request to the registry and not just the air carriers on the applicant's resume. But it’s been moving at the speed of government. I’ve got a feeling the Houston crash may expedite it.
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...ords_database/

It's here, in Beta mode. Everybody can (and should!) log in and check your record for accuracy.

Some things might be missing because it's still a work in progress, but obviously you want to make sure your record doesn't reflect erroneous negative info.
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Old 01-21-2020, 07:45 AM
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Moderator question for the natives: Should I move this thread over to the cargo forum? It's been here for a long time, maybe before the cargo forum existed.
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Old 01-21-2020, 11:06 AM
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The Case for Moving the Thread to Cargo or Charter:
There was a time when people were genuinely interested in coming to Atlas. Questions on this thread, if you look way back, were related to hiring, etc. Now this is basically a thread full of shop-talk. We fly passengers as well as freight, and the future of how much freight we fly versus passengers is hard to predict.

The Case for Keeping this Thread Here in Hiring:
At some point Atlas will get a new contract. Conditions change. Just as this was once a destination airline that has become a laughing stock, the same thing can happen in reverse. Look at Kalitta. If and when we round whatever corner we have to round, there will be renewed interest in getting aboard here. People will want to know the details and history that we've discussed here. Looking through this deep thread, sorting the wheat from the chaff of the thousands of pages of discussions, would be decent information for whoever takes an interest in coming here should we return to some semblance of a real airline. This thread has become a valuable archive. Moving it will won't erase the information, but it will be less accessible.

Also, there are already tons of Atlas threads in Cargo.

A third option:
Make an Atlas/Southern subgroup, just like FedEx and UPS have. Cram all things Atlas and Southern in there so we stop filling up space all over the board.
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Old 01-21-2020, 08:11 PM
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I feel like Atlas/Southern and Kalitta would make good use of a sub-forum in the cargo section and clean up the threads below a little......
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:07 PM
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Atlas pilots lost another couple of judgements in court today. Chances for a decent future contract got much slimmer and further down the road. Executive leadership is still trying to litigate its way to success. More impetus for current pilots to leave, and most of us are job hunting in earnest. Based on the news today, that is accelerating quickly. It is our belief that Atlas is on death's doorstep. Good luck to all. See you guys at a job fair.
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