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Flyby1206 01-08-2011 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot7 (Post 927028)
Looks like 800 total/ 100 multi on airlineapps!!

Where are you seeing that? When I click the Eagle icon on airlineapps it brings me to the eagle job page which says 1000/100

snippercr 01-08-2011 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 927058)
Where are you seeing that? When I click the Eagle icon on airlineapps it brings me to the eagle job page which says 1000/100

If you go under "Compare my Application" it shows you what your application looks like compared to what they want. It lists for TT they want 800 but still 100ME.

I Never was worried about the TT... just cant seem to find a way to get that multi time.

Flyby1206 01-08-2011 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 927067)
If you go under "Compare my Application" it shows you what your application looks like compared to what they want. It lists for TT they want 800 but still 100ME.

I Never was worried about the TT... just cant seem to find a way to get that multi time.

Wow, yep I see it now. Thats pretty crazy, I thought most all of the other regional carriers were at least 1000/100 for hiring mins.

But I really wonder if that will help their hiring projections. In the past years there used to be a lot of people who would post questions about being hired with less than Total Time mins, but those posts have dried up.

stbloc 01-08-2011 08:05 PM

Is it possible we may see hiring equivalent to 2008. I never thought it would go back to the 250 hour guy fresh out of school. Now its looking like we could be down that path again.

Flyby1206 01-08-2011 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 927084)
Is it possible we may see hiring equivalent to 2008. I never thought it would go back to the 250 hour guy fresh out of school. Now its looking like we could be down that path again.

Still a long ways to go to get to that point. I dont think we will have it because it is highly unlikely of more scope concessions from the majors. Allowing 70-76+seat jets at regionals was the catalyst for the 2007-2008 boom and the 250hr hiring.

stbloc 01-08-2011 11:42 PM

what about that fact that majors will be hiring large number and fewer students in the pipeline? most students in the academy are foreigners and don't have the right to work here. It will only take 1000 or 2000 pilots moving on to cause wide spread panic at the regional level. USA Students are not enrolling into programs due to high cost on training and lack of student lending. Do you think this will play a roll? The regional are project to hire around 1000+ this year and the majors haven't really ramped up interviewing yet. where are they going to find these people to fill slot with out lowering the bar? Delta alone is projected to hire 400 and virgin 150 along with 50+ from Spirit. once USair get on board with there aging employees that could easily add another 300-500. With growth and replacement I see regional could need 1000+ maybe even 2000 by 2012. call me an optimist but this is just my opinion.

lakehouse 01-09-2011 07:00 AM

i agree with you.


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 927130)
what about that fact that majors will be hiring large number and fewer students in the pipeline? most students in the academy are foreigners and don't have the right to work here. It will only take 1000 or 2000 pilots moving on to cause wide spread panic at the regional level. USA Students are not enrolling into programs due to high cost on training and lack of student lending. Do you think this will play a roll? The regional are project to hire around 1000+ this year and the majors haven't really ramped up interviewing yet. where are they going to find these people to fill slot with out lowering the bar? Delta alone is projected to hire 400 and virgin 150 along with 50+ from Spirit. once USair get on board with there aging employees that could easily add another 300-500. With growth and replacement I see regional could need 1000+ maybe even 2000 by 2012. call me an optimist but this is just my opinion.


HighSpeedTaxi5 01-09-2011 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 927055)
Jan 17th class projected slots:

14 DFW ERJ
6 ORD ERJ
6 MIA ATR
5 ORD CRJ
1 JFK ERJ

Any projected slots for the Jan 31st and Feb 7th Class?

Flyby1206 01-09-2011 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by HighSpeedTaxi5 (Post 927278)
Any projected slots for the Jan 31st and Feb 7th Class?

Nothing solid yet, but expect 30+ newhires in each of the classes

snippercr 01-09-2011 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 927130)
what about that fact that majors will be hiring large number and fewer students in the pipeline? most students in the academy are foreigners and don't have the right to work here. It will only take 1000 or 2000 pilots moving on to cause wide spread panic at the regional level. USA Students are not enrolling into programs due to high cost on training and lack of student lending. Do you think this will play a roll? The regional are project to hire around 1000+ this year and the majors haven't really ramped up interviewing yet. where are they going to find these people to fill slot with out lowering the bar? Delta alone is projected to hire 400 and virgin 150 along with 50+ from Spirit. once USair get on board with there aging employees that could easily add another 300-500. With growth and replacement I see regional could need 1000+ maybe even 2000 by 2012. call me an optimist but this is just my opinion.

Ain't that the truth. It's only fueling the shortage of "qualified" pilots. You have career orientated students coming out with their CFI/CFII at 250/300 hours but no students to teach. Therefore, no method of building the required 1500 hours. There is no expansion of other part 91 jobs (jumpers, pipeline, night checks, etc), in fact those jobs are probably shrinking even more with the tightened economy.

Our school used to have a pretty high turn over rate of instructors. Well with the decreased enrollment (4 year University, not a pilot mill), we are having students leave our program who can't get hired as instructors here or elsewhere. Where are they going to get their hours?

It's been posted around here several times that the number of commercial certificates issued the past few years is at the lowest it's ever been. Will there ever be a pilot shortage? Not when you can go from 0-250 in 90 days. But if there is no way to go from 250-1500 then there could be that "qualified" shortage.


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