Stallog

Where was the open house?! How did you hear about it? I would have been there had I known!

Grumble

Most fighter guys are going to have 1300TT give or take a few at their first chance to jump ship. Haven't seen or heard of any mil conversion at Alaska.

Lobaeux

Yeah, the fighter guys got it tough, and doesn't look to get any better with possible budget cuts. More and more flying will be done in the sim to save money.

Just too bad there's no standard military conversion for the airlines.

AtlCSIP

It wouldn't matter if there was a conversion. The ATP requires 1500tt. Currently no exceptions.

Lobaeux

Yeah, that's true. Hard for the fighter guys, the ones who get out after their initial commitment will have been flying for 10 years and won't have enough time to get an ATP.
It'd be nice if the military counted hours like the FAA allows, but even then, don't know if that would help very many fighter guys get over the 1500TT hump.

JoeyMeatballs

I know it is something nobody wants to do, but I would imagine a military guy (esp a fighter guy) would have his choice of airlines after 6 months of 121 at a regional. I say (if you can) hit the regionals up for 121 time

akaviator

Is there something wrong with military pilots keeping their own logbooks and recording block time?

Lobaeux

I guess nothing at all, but it conflicts with the way it's done by the office that records those numbers.
After every flight, you fill out a maintenance time sheet along with your training sheet (recording your events you logged, like takeoffs, landings, approaches and then military specific things like airdrops, assault landings, etc) and a flight review. Those times are logged from takeoff to land and are used to update the airframe time and for certain upgrades, to aircraft commander, instructor, evaluator and such.
Conceivably, I could go back and put every sortie into a logbook, but 1600+ sorties, with quite a few locations that are considered classified, you end up with a big mess of different times. And, I know there's been at least a few times when I just didn't have the time (no pun intended) to write the actual "block time out" down.
Not a worry for me, I just feel for the fighter guys who need every .1 and .2 they can get.

Grumble

Our jets record all the flight time and download the data automatically now. If what you log and what the jets thinks you should've logged are off by more than a minute or two, it tattles on you and auto generates a report that goes to The Man. I wish I were kidding.

xjtguy

Each airline has their own way of how a pilot accounts for flight time, to include a mil sortie conversion.

If the usual .3 per sortie didn't add up to what a mil pilot logged/put on their app, it's gonna make it interesting to explain in an interview why there is a discrepancy over the way the airline wants it per their instructions vs. what could be a different number.

Seriously, EVERY airline has been doing this the same way. I don't think that if the above case happened, the HR folks would say "My god, that's brilliant! Screw the way we've been doing it for decades, you have shown us the way, YOU'RE HIRED!!!!!"