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yimke 02-19-2014 02:59 PM

PEOPLExpress (It's back!)
 
Captains -
5,000 hours of total documented fixed-wing flight time*
2,500 hours of PIC flight time, of which 2,000 or more shall have been in fixed-wing, multi-engine, jet aircraft*

First Officers -
3,000 hours of total documented flight time*
1,000 hours of PIC in fixed-wing turbine powered multi-engine aircraft *

PEOPLExpress Careers

A little high of TPIC for a startup airline IMO.

babs 02-19-2014 03:13 PM

What's the pay? What are the bases?

SkylineAviation 02-19-2014 03:14 PM

First whiff of sustained airline profits and now you're seeing new entrants like this and supposedly the resurrection of Eastern. Flood certain markets with unnecessary capacity and lose money. It will be just in time to ramp up operations for a few years at best then hit the cyclical downturn and go out of business.

yimke 02-19-2014 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 1585355)
What's the pay? What are the bases?

Not too much out there, but KPHF is one and KPIT is the other in 2014. Nothing about pay.

wrxpilot 02-19-2014 04:36 PM

Exemption 3585!

Aviator89 02-19-2014 05:54 PM

haha, is this for real? I actually saw a "people express" cargo van the other day driving down the interstate. Wondered if they were related somehow.

gvinflight 02-19-2014 06:23 PM

But seriously...what is the pay. Maybe a way to leave the regionals...yet another stepping stone for a legacy...maybe just another dead end...

GVasia 02-20-2014 06:24 AM

I hope they use that original paint scheme.

yimke 02-20-2014 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1585545)
But seriously...what is the pay. Maybe a way to leave the regionals...yet another stepping stone for a legacy...maybe just another dead end...

Its not posted anywhere I can find. Maybe someone can call the company and ask? Im not interested, but I found it interesting.

roundtowne 02-21-2014 03:22 AM

I don't think they make that paint anymore! ;-)

roundtowne 02-21-2014 03:23 AM

I stand corrected! They make the paint. However, the FAA requires a special STC to use the colors together!

Octagon 02-24-2014 02:45 PM

Im looking around and Im not finding anything on Peoplexress other then the airline history from 81-87 and that single 4 page website with no articles on their media page. Am i missing something? Their Facebook page is rather vauge

gvinflight 02-24-2014 05:11 PM

Their LinkedIn page is pretty vague also. Just the minimums for hire. Very high for both FO's and CA's. Odd. Who knows.

captainv 02-24-2014 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by gvinflight (Post 1588976)
Just the minimums for hire. Very high for both FO's and CA's. Odd. Who knows.

Wouldn't it have to be for the initial cadre?

hoover 02-25-2014 10:52 AM

PEX tried to buy Xtra airways. they could never come up with the money. The rumor is that they are starting flights using Vision. Not sure where they are getting the planes for their own operation. They still plan on using 400s when everyone else is trying to get away from them due to the 1 million dollar fuel tank inspection that has to be done this yr. Saw they are also seeking mechanics. Without listing the flight bases or route and pay I think that they are just tooting their own horn to ramp up investors. I really doubt they will ever fly their own plane.

General Lee 02-27-2014 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 1589476)
PEX tried to buy Xtra airways. they could never come up with the money. The rumor is that they are starting flights using Vision. Not sure where they are getting the planes for their own operation. They still plan on using 400s when everyone else is trying to get away from them due to the 1 million dollar fuel tank inspection that has to be done this yr. Saw they are also seeking mechanics. Without listing the flight bases or route and pay I think that they are just tooting their own horn to ramp up investors. I really doubt they will ever fly their own plane.

I think your right!

MayorBee 02-27-2014 07:18 PM

Below are some questions I emailed the company to try to find out more info:

I am sure you are quite busy sorting through resumes but I thought it would hurt to ask a few questions not listed on your website;

Approximately how many First Officer positions do you anticipate for your initial hiring?

When do you expect calls to go out for those who have already applied?

Will you interview and hire/pool candidates prior to officially opening for business?

Thank you in advance for your time, I will be anxiously waiting and watching for future developments.

Below was the email received:

Thank you for your interest in joining the PEOPLExpress Team. We appreciate you contacting us with your questions regarding our hiring plans.

We are currently finalizing our launch and service plans which will determine the specific answers to your questions. We anticipate having these plans finalized in the coming weeks at which time we will be in contact with applicants for all of our posted career opportunities.

We are flattered to have received such a strong response from so many well qualified applicants. We are carefully reviewing all the applications we have received, but as I am sure that you can understand, based on the volume of applications this is a time consuming process. We will continue our review as we move toward the start of our formal interview process and contact applicants as we are prepared to move to the next step in the process with them.

Again, thank your for your enthusiasm for and interest in a career with PEOPLExpress!

Best regards,
Steve

Steve Shatsky
Director of Recruiting and Team Support
[email protected]

PEOPLExpress™
902 Bland Boulevard
Newport News, VA 23602
PEOPLExpress? Fly Smart?
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hoover 03-04-2014 09:17 AM

sounds like the generic responses that were given for the last two years whenever any question was asked. I guess we'll see

propiser 03-05-2014 08:43 AM

Interesting and very positive.

ULLI 03-05-2014 10:35 AM

I heard they want Miami Air to fly for them initially with the -800s. I personally dont see it happening, I know -800s are not cheap to charter.

formercrjdriver 03-05-2014 07:29 PM

I applied the day after they opened the posting. I don't have the PIC time but figured I'd give it a shot. I'm a little fuzzy though on why FOs would have to have the PIC time....Southwest and FedEx are the only two I know of that still want that. I know it's a big unknown, but my opinion is that anything beats a regional, and it would be amazing to get in on the ground floor especially if the company succeeds.

FlyAstarJets 03-07-2014 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 1589476)
PEX tried to buy Xtra airways. they could never come up with the money. The rumor is that they are starting flights using Vision. Not sure where they are getting the planes for their own operation. They still plan on using 400s when everyone else is trying to get away from them due to the 1 million dollar fuel tank inspection that has to be done this yr. Saw they are also seeking mechanics. Without listing the flight bases or route and pay I think that they are just tooting their own horn to ramp up investors. I really doubt they will ever fly their own plane.

Where did you see this? Bloomberg has it as:
...TEM Enterprises, Inc., doing business as XTRA Airways. ...As of June 5, 2013, TEM Enterprises, Inc. operates as a subsidiary of PEOPLExpress Airlines, Inc.

I do find it suspicious that their Media section, which did mention the Xtra Airways buy, has been purged.

hoover 03-07-2014 04:24 PM

I used to work for Xtra when the buyout was supposed to happen. Long story short Xtra never received all of the money so the certificate never transferred owners. Both are still separate. Which leads me to the question of who's certificate did they finally buy since I thought PEX gave up on trying to get their own.

PEX paid Xtra a money just to say they bought them so they could raise more money from investers to complete the buyout. Which never happened.

FlyAstarJets 03-08-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 1597690)
I used to work for Xtra when the buyout was supposed to happen. Long story short Xtra never received all of the money so the certificate never transferred owners. Both are still separate. Which leads me to the question of who's certificate did they finally buy since I thought PEX gave up on trying to get their own.

PEX paid Xtra a money just to say they bought them so they could raise more money from investers to complete the buyout. Which never happened.

Hoover,
After a some internet searching around, I guess the trail started with Xtra. At some point, as you reported, the deal was not completed. This led to PEX to go after the assets of Ryan which looked promising. But after some digging on behalf of the PEX group, the FAA was going to deny the bid due to Ryan's suspect of the health of the assets and certificate for rapid resumption of services. PEX was offering $500K (yes, thousand) for Ryan assets, but removed themselves from the bidding Feb. 13, 2014. Now it looks like the likely target for PEX is Sky King. But things seem a bit in flux for PEX with the reported resignation of President Mike Morisi and promotion of Jeff Erickson formally of Atlas taking over PEX.

FAJ

hoover 03-10-2014 02:03 PM

wow, good research. Yeah not sure where they are going to get the certificate but one thing is certain that they like to announce stuff way before anything happens. Its been over two years since they said they were going to start flying soon and stay tuned for more great news.

I guess time will tell.

EricJ320 03-10-2014 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets (Post 1598119)
Hoover,
After a some internet searching around, I guess the trail started with Xtra. At some point, as you reported, the deal was not completed. This led to PEX to go after the assets of Ryan which looked promising. But after some digging on behalf of the PEX group, the FAA was going to deny the bid due to Ryan's suspect of the health of the assets and certificate for rapid resumption of services. PEX was offering $500K (yes, thousand) for Ryan assets, but removed themselves from the bidding Feb. 13, 2014. Now it looks like the likely target for PEX is Sky King. But things seem a bit in flux for PEX with the reported resignation of President Mike Morisi and promotion of Jeff Erickson formally of Atlas taking over PEX.

FAJ

Yeah, it was my understanding the FAA made it clear to PEX that the only way the Ryan certificate could be resurrected was to use the aircraft that were currently on the certificate, B767's or A330's. Adding the B737 was not in the cards for initial resumption of service, and of course neither of those aircraft fit the PEX business model.

starcheckers 03-11-2014 05:43 PM

Wow, this airline brings back memories.

gvinflight 03-28-2014 03:56 PM

Any recent news of whats happening at PEx or is everything still stagnant there?

Duksrule 06-09-2014 01:42 PM

Not sure about hiring or pay but they start hauling pax on 6/30. You can already buy tickets. I'd like to know more myself as I am local to Newport News.

hoover 06-09-2014 08:12 PM

They are using Vision planes and crews for now.

BizPilot 06-16-2014 01:57 PM

High hiring standards for an upstart on a shoe-string.
Oil may hit $150 a barrel this summer.

Connect the dots.

Swedish Blender 06-16-2014 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by EricJ320 (Post 1599648)
Yeah, it was my understanding the FAA made it clear to PEX that the only way the Ryan certificate could be resurrected was to use the aircraft that were currently on the certificate, B767's or A330's. Adding the B737 was not in the cards for initial resumption of service, and of course neither of those aircraft fit the PEX business model.

Eric,

I didn't think planes went off ones certificate. I'm sure you know Ryan has flown DC9&10, B727/737/757/767, A320/330.

JamesNoBrakes 06-16-2014 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 1665942)
Eric,

I didn't think planes went off ones certificate. I'm sure you know Ryan has flown DC9&10, B727/737/757/767, A320/330.

If you don't fly said planes, they usually do come off the certificate. It's about resource management. If they don't intend to keep them, then the FAA can't allocate the resources to manage them, how they do this is by taking them off the certificate. If they want to put something back on a certificate, or put something on there that is new, once again the FAA has to come up with the resources to manage it, manpower.

EricJ320 06-16-2014 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 1665942)
Eric,

I didn't think planes went off ones certificate. I'm sure you know Ryan has flown DC9&10, B727/737/757/767, A320/330.

Don't forget the MD-80 and you can add 777's as well. Though we never acquired a 777, it was on the certificate and pilots were trained. When deals fell through for a 777, that's when they switched to 330's.

As James said, if you aren't flying a certain type, resources are not usually spent, both within the company and the FAA, to maintain the type. If they aren't maintained, they come out of the Ops Specs. It's all irrelevant anyway, PEX didn't acquire the Ryan certificate. Rumor has it the FAA closed the Ryan certificate in the last few weeks. Rather unfortunate, not many certificates had as many authorizations and types flown throughout the years.

flapshalfspeed 06-19-2014 02:01 PM

There is a thread on the JC "jobs available-member's only" section for Vision FOs, specifically to staff this People's Express op. Apparently Vision staffed up by a couple classes recently to fly these routes, or at least that's what folks in that thread are saying.

Dejavu 06-19-2014 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1668051)
There is a thread on the JC "jobs available-member's only" section for Vision FOs, specifically to staff this People's Express op. Apparently Vision staffed up by a couple classes recently to fly these routes, or at least that's what folks in that thread are saying.

Is this thread on APC ?


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