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nattyboh 03-06-2014 12:28 PM

Delta brain games
 
I am looking around for a thread that has to do with techniques to pass the Delta skills evaluation. Any advice is welcome.
I am looking for a specific thread devoted to this. I could not find it. I am sure this has been addressed somewhere. Thank you.

DeadHead 03-06-2014 02:35 PM

I'm guessing your referring to a portion of the interview process.

http://www.lumosity.com/landing_page...FS1p7AodMwoAVQ

There's others, but it's a good place to start.

JohnnyRJ 03-11-2014 05:00 AM

Nattyboh,
I just recently interviewed. I received a CJO. All I did to prepare for the cognitive test was review the test descriptions that are out there floating around. Knowing what they test is like helps you know what you are up against. After that I downloaded all kinds of mental games available on ipad. Memory games and reaction games just helps get your brain active. The tests are not that tough. Before each test you can practice it till you feel comfortable. Read the direction well do the practice and you'll be fine. Hope this helps

AeroCrewSolut 03-11-2014 10:41 AM

I've never had a client who came to our office fail the Cognitive Skills test. I can walk you through each module and show you how to prepare for the test.

HTBH 03-11-2014 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyRJ (Post 1599832)
Nattyboh,
I just recently interviewed. I received a CJO. All I did to prepare for the cognitive test was review the test descriptions that are out there floating around. Knowing what they test is like helps you know what you are up against. After that I downloaded all kinds of mental games available on ipad. Memory games and reaction games just helps get your brain active. The tests are not that tough. Before each test you can practice it till you feel comfortable. Read the direction well do the practice and you'll be fine. Hope this helps

What was the latest rumors on when people would enter training? Both OTS and flows? I'm a December CJO and can't find much out. Latest I heard was the people who got the CJO in the past couple weeks were told "by the end of the year" for a training slot. Any new news?

JohnnyRJ 03-12-2014 08:30 PM

I interviewed the last week of Feb. Arnie told us his best guesstimate was Sept-Oct time frame. That was also before the 600 this year announcement

Snickers 03-12-2014 10:17 PM

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...nterviews.html

I posted the gouge I used on page 3. I used it for a regional airline interview but it SHOULD be the same cog test. like everyone else before me said, lumosity helps greatly.

Best of luck to you!

Simms41 03-13-2014 04:09 AM

What about the tech test?

FrankSavage 03-13-2014 05:53 AM

Lots of tech question info over at willflyforfood. Including sample questions.

kijackson 04-01-2014 06:15 PM

I can't get on that sight...any reason why not?

kijackson 04-01-2014 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1601131)
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...nterviews.html

I posted the gouge I used on page 3. I used it for a regional airline interview but it SHOULD be the same cog test. like everyone else before me said, lumosity helps greatly.

Best of luck to you!

I can't get on that forum...any reason why not?

Maeviation 04-10-2014 05:54 AM

I interviewed on 12/4, but was only offered another guaranteed interview in one year due to my performance on what I was told was primarily the cog test. I had practiced on lumosity for about a month, but had also had a terrible night's sleep the night prior. Panel interview in the morning went great and I'm fairly certain that performance on the job knowledge test was also good. That said, Id recommend prep for the cog test. Gouge for the other portions is out there and dead on.

Snickers 04-10-2014 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by kijackson (Post 1614795)
I can't get on that forum...any reason why not?

Sorry for the late response jackson I just saw this. Not sure why you cant view the other thread, maybe you can try searching for it? Here is the gouge I posted, reposted!


Cognitive Skills Test*

They will have you fill out a sheet of paper with your background so they can statistically track all the data (sex, race, hours, computer use etc). There are 13 tests total and some have a combination of previous tests. There really isn't any way to study for it but maybe knowing the format will help someone out when they count it for real. Everything is done on the computer with a touch pen and a keyboard is used on the last 2 tests. I don't remember the exact order but here it goes.*

1. Numbers Recall - A series of 3,4, or 5 digit numbers are displayed on a screen one at a time and you will have to remember what they are in reverse order during a time limit (i.e. 4-6-1-3 will have a response of 3-1-6-4).*

2. Number/ Symbol Recognition - 6 symbols are represented as numbers and you will have to convert those by pressing a numbers on the screen as you move along the string of symbols. You are to complete as many symbols as possible. The key code is shown but here it is:*

- U L T X O Note: there aren't actual letters just the general shapes....the T is 1 2 3 4 5 6 actually an upside down T shape looking for the number 4.*

They will ask you later to identify the symbols without the key to see if you remember it.*

3. Numbers Sequence - This test will have you look at 4 squares and see how fast you can count up by pressing the next number in a sequence starting with 1 during a time limit. There will be distracters in the other 3 boxes. Later you will have to do the same but also insert letters. (1-A-2-B-3-C etc)

4. Number/Letter Comparison - This test will have to sets of number/letter combinations and you are to press a square to see if they are the same or different during a given time:*

H63MLO H63NLO*

5. Blocks - This test will see if you can remember a grid with various colored blocks (purple and yellow). You will see one to memorize then two will appear and you will have to match the right one.*

6. Tones - This test will see if you can tell if 2 series of tones are the same or different. You will hear the tones then press the same or different box.*

7. Bar and Circle - This test will have a circle with a bar in the middle that will either climb or drop into a red area. You can't press the screen until it actually hits the red area and the bar will have slight gyrations during the travel.*

8. Bar and Circle/Same and Different - I am not exactly sure if this is the right pair but there is a combination test where you have to wait for the bar to hit the red area and identify if the numbers/letters sequence (4) at the same time.*

9. Previous Number - There are 3 (1, 2, and 3) blocks for you to touch and as one of the three numbers appear you will have to mark the previous viewed one.*

10. Arrow/Border - You will identify out of four boxes if either the color of the border, color of the arrow, or direction of the arrow as the sequence varies. Later on you will press a box and tone will tell you if you are right (i.e. guess the sequence). You will press the same box until the incorrect tone is heard then you need to find out what the computer wants.*

11. Flagman - You will see a flag man that will be facing you, inverted, backward and you will have to identify which hand he is holding a flag in a given amount of time.*

12. Sliding Bar - You will use the arrow keys on the key board to keep a small, moving indicator in the center (will move left/right). It will eventually jump off the scale. You will use your non-writing hand.*

13. Sliding Bar/Previous Number - I am not sure if this combination is the one that goes with number 8 but basically the sliding bar will move (left/right) and you must keep it centered along with identifying the previous number (1,2,3) the next one is displayed.

***


satpak77 04-10-2014 06:19 AM

just curious but what does this Cog test actually test regarding ability to fly an airplane, type of person to spend multiple days on road with, and overall positive addition to the company and cockpit ?

LloydC 04-10-2014 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1620700)
just curious but what does this Cog test actually test regarding ability to fly an airplane, type of person to spend multiple days on road with, and overall positive addition to the company and cockpit ?

AK mentioned during the interview in-brief that it was implemented to take the place of a simulator session, the thought being that taking the Cog Test puts everyone on the same level as far as familiarity with the "gear." I suppose the argument is that it tests (in an admittedly imperfect and very rudimental way) some of the various skills required in the cockpit (e.g., short-term memory, hand-eye coordination, multi-tasking). I definitely liked not having to plunk down 2Gs or so for practice time in a 737 sim like the UAL bubbas generally do. :D

I found the test to be fairly straight-forward, if a bit stressful, and didn't do any prep other than to familiarize myself with the basic idea behind the various test components through the gouge that's out there. Keys to success for me were:
1 - reading and understanding the instructions;
2 - doing multiple practices until I mastered what each test was after (if you need more than two practices you have to wave the test monitor in to reset the test -- which I did multiple times on a few of the tests);
3 - not getting stressed out when I made mistakes and heard the dreaded dee-dum.

jalapeno 04-10-2014 08:42 PM

Lumosity was the most helpful way to prctice that I found. The games aren't really the same, but I think it will still help you perform better when you take the test.

NextFlightHome 04-15-2014 06:48 AM

Lumosity is fun either way, good for life in general. If DAL ever calls me, I will definitely be using it

Twister 09-08-2015 09:02 AM

Cog Test ("Numbers Sequence") Question
 
Anyone -

Got an interview with Delta 29 Sep and have a question on the "Numbers Sequence" sub-test (this is the one with the 4 corner boxes and a box in the center and you have to count up by one with numbers, letters and then numbers/letters together).....

The best gouge that I could find out there said the following: "The idea is to click the boxes off in alphabetical order, always knowing where the next letter in the alphabet is going to be when the next set of 5 boxes come up (the number or letter that is forecast does not change positions when it pops up again."

Question: so does this mean if I'm on the number "10" in the bottom left of the screen and I click on "10" that "11" will be in some predictable position, for example, every "next" number or letter is moving in a clockwise direction? If I'm just trying to discover the 'pattern' of where to move my light pen to then what's the point of memorizing "1A, 2B", etc? I gotta be missing something.

Bueller? Bueller?....


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