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M696 03-09-2014 07:14 AM

Is it so hard to post new hire qualifications without getting your panties in a bunch over your beloved "long" thread? No need to get upset because someone started a new Atlas thread.

744driver 03-09-2014 09:12 AM

It's not about any right of passage that has been mentioned in the past...

For me, it is simpler than that...one serves my purposes, one serves the applicant.

For me, I don't want to repost all the important stuff...

For you, the applicant, if you can get even a small morsel or three by reading the entire, long thread, then you have just spent your time wisely...

Atlas (and others like it) is likely a different beast than you are used to (unless you come from the ACMI world)...so, I'm hoping to steer you to the long thread.

But it is of course, up to you...I think it may be worth your time...you make the choice.

Good luck.

JerrySpringer 03-09-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M696 (Post 1598598)
Is it so hard to post new hire qualifications without getting your panties in a bunch over your beloved "long" thread? No need to get upset because someone started a new Atlas thread.

Agreed.

I'd say the other thread has evolved from purely hiring info into other important discussions as that group has moved along.

Maybe one or several of the 24 in class now can summarize their very recent experience in the hiring process.

Good luck!

Just remember, because that's the way it was doesn't mean that's what's best now!

NightIP 03-09-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerrySpringer (Post 1598694)
Agreed.

I'd say the other thread has evolved from purely hiring info into other important discussions as that group has moved along.

Maybe one or several of the 24 in class now can summarize their very recent experience in the hiring process.

Good luck!

Just remember, because that's the way it was doesn't mean that's what's best now!

+1.

Or at least just read through pertinent sections of the thread with the help of the guide someone posted for it with all the page numbers. No reason to waste time reading 800+ pages.

M696 03-09-2014 12:33 PM

The "long" thread is fantastic, a wealth of information. I have been following it and Atlas for quite some time but I do see the value in a separate thread for a particular topic.

DC8DRIVER 03-09-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M696 (Post 1598598)
Is it so hard to post new hire qualifications without getting your panties in a bunch over your beloved "long" thread? No need to get upset because someone started a new Atlas thread.

... So those of us who have spent hours and hours researching and posting valuable information and personal experiences on the "beloved long thread" would have to reedit and repost all of our work on a new thread whenever someone who is too impatient or lazy to take the time to do their homework demands instant gratification.

Gotcha. I'll get right on it.

Maybe the new guys will take up the torch and fill this urgent need. It would be a shame, however, to lose out on all of the odds and ends of information regarding schedules, fleet plans, operations, history, gateway travel, pay, vacation, junior/senior crew bases, customers, new flying, lost flying, training pay, first year pay, military leave, etc. etc. etc. that has already been posted and made available to those who are looking for the "Atlas Gouge". Questions about these subjects will inevitably come up and have to be repeated in every new thread that surfaces with an Atlas inquiry.

I will say this here, however; My personal experience at Atlas has shown me that during the interview, hiring and initial new hire training process, Atlas seems to place a huge amount of responsibility on the incoming pilot to research and know their information whether it be company history, operations, facts and figures for the interview, or systems and procedures during initial ground school. If a prospective Atlas employee needs to be lead by the hand through the process, if they are not willing to do the work and put in the time required, they will likely not succeed.

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WARich 03-09-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER (Post 1598795)
... So those of us who have spent hours and hours researching and posting valuable information and personal experiences on the "beloved long thread" would have to reedit and repost all of our work on a new thread whenever someone who is too impatient or lazy to take the time to do their homework demands instant gratification.

Gotcha. I'll get right on it.

Maybe the new guys will take up the torch and fill this urgent need. It would be a shame, however, to lose out on all of the odds and ends of information regarding schedules, fleet plans, operations, history, gateway travel, pay, vacation, junior/senior crew bases, customers, new flying, lost flying, training pay, first year pay, military leave, etc. etc. etc. that has already been posted and made available to those who are looking for the "Atlas Gouge". Questions about these subjects will inevitably come up and have to be repeated in every new thread that surfaces with an Atlas inquiry.

I will say this here, however; My personal experience at Atlas has shown me that during the interview, hiring and initial new hire training process, Atlas seems to place a huge amount of responsibility on the incoming pilot to research and know their information whether it be company history, operations, facts and figures for the interview, or systems and procedures during initial ground school. If a prospective Atlas employee needs to be lead by the hand through the process, if they are not willing to do the work and put in the time required, they will likely not succeed.

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Agreed. I'm not at Atlas, though I hope to be some day. I've read the thread, updated over and over again. Attended a job fair for the purpose of talking to Atlas. In my opinion, wanting to take a "short cut" isn't the best way to attack it. Perhaps it's the entitlement generation that is calling for a new thread. Just too difficult to spend a day reading the old thread. Doesn't really surprise me though, most under 40 seem to think they don't have to put in the hard work to accomplish something they really want. But once again, this is just my opinion. You know, if you want something really bad, you should put forth whatever effort is required. I've learned this throughout my life and it works. Nothing worth while is ever achieved easily. Just saying. :D

M696 03-09-2014 01:45 PM

It's not about entitlement or laziness...for information on Atlas the long thread is fantastic, I believe the intent of this thread was for new hires to post their qualifications...which has had zero posts on topic, just a bunch of irrelevant banter about people not reading the other thread.

thesandbox 03-09-2014 04:13 PM

it's okay....most talk about the contract the same way

Farmlover 03-09-2014 04:30 PM

Wow you guys are really nice. no one can help the poor guy out? Its a simple question. This site gets worse and worse.


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