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Old 03-21-2014, 09:35 AM
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Ameriflight has a SIC @ 900+ hrs deal now. Train into the chieftain, get paid (not much) right seat while you build a couple hundred more hours up to minimums. Slide into left seat when qualified.

Looks like a good option for those instructors dying to get out of those last few hundred hours doing steep turns.
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Ameriflight has a SIC @ 900+ hrs deal now. Train into the chieftain, get paid (not much) right seat while you build a couple hundred more hours up to minimums. Slide into left seat when qualified.

Looks like a good option for those instructors dying to get out of those last few hundred hours doing steep turns.
Is it pay for training?
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Is it pay for training?
From the original post, it sounds like what AirNet did (maybe still does)...SICs get paid. Not much, but they are indeed paid. How is this legally logable? Serious question.
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From the original post, it sounds like what AirNet did (maybe still does)...SICs get paid. Not much, but they are indeed paid. How is this legally logable? Serious question.
Maybe they have a lot of guys with their MEI??
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It's in the ops specs the day you hit 1200 they want you in the left seat
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From the original post, it sounds like what AirNet did (maybe still does)...SICs get paid. Not much, but they are indeed paid. How is this legally logable? Serious question.
Part 135, without an autopilot OR with an autopilot and company op specs require two pilots.
Certain routes could require two pilots while others do not. Much like how cape air has some routes that require two pilots, but not all do.
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Part 135, without an autopilot OR with an autopilot and company op specs require two pilots.
Certain routes could require two pilots while others do not. Much like how cape air has some routes that require two pilots, but not all do.
Cargo never requires an autopilot, single pilot or not. OpSpecs allow for use of an SIC.
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From the original post, it sounds like what AirNet did (maybe still does)...SICs get paid. Not much, but they are indeed paid. How is this legally logable? Serious question.
Legal for what? I can log whatever I want to log, like sitting on my couch, waiting a stoplight, etc. Logable for an FAA certificate or rating, or logable for applying to an airline?
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:52 AM
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Yes you're correct. You can log whatever time you want. You can even log all the 747 time you have in Microsoft flight simulator. You can even check the box on American application that asks are you a space shuttle pilot. but don't get upset if you got kicked out of an interview within the first 5 minutes
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Legal for what? I can log whatever I want to log, like sitting on my couch, waiting a stoplight, etc. Logable for an FAA certificate or rating, or logable for applying to an airline?
Yes, I have heard the hyperbole of logging refrigerator time, lawn mower time, etc. But once a person starts logging time in registered aircraft, doesn't the FAA have jurisdiction so to speak? I don't think the FAA finds these matters cheeky, and some inspectors get downright aggressive and threatening.


I thought that you could get your hand slapped by the FAA for logging time incorrectly. Hasn't the FAA gone after pilots over their logging of time?
In other words to log SIC time you must be required by the aircraft manufacturer, OpSpec, nature of the operation ( like safety pilot for hood work). As another example I am not legal to log SIC or PIC time as a safety pilot unless the pilot flying is wearing the hood----I can't just log SIC or PIC time for sitting there.

So for operations that are single pilot only, I thought logging SIC was a no no.
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