Saudia attending Fort Lauderdale Pilot Fair
10-29-2015, 09:13 AM
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Saudia attending Fort Lauderdale Pilot Fair
Saudia attending Fort Lauderdale, FL, Pilot Job Fair, held on the 13th of November 2015.
Fort Lauderdale Pilot Job Fair November 13 ? Aero Crew Solutions
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•Job Fair: 10:30 AM to 5:00 PM
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Fort Lauderdale Pilot Job Fair November 13 ? Aero Crew Solutions
•FLL Sheraton Airport Hotel
•Job Fair: 10:30 AM to 5:00 PM
https://secure.sv.net/sv/rec/
Hiring B-777 & A-330 Captains
One of the Most Attractive Salary & Benefits Program
Join Our Family
10-29-2015, 10:49 AM
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If you really want to work in Middle East pick EY, EK or better go to Eva Air in Asia. If you don't care about QOL, pay, benefits then joinSaudi.
You start day with a multiple choice FAA ATP test which will be one hour. 50 questions taken from Gleim's. Four to five questions will be repeated in the test.*
10 reasoning and mental math questions, 20 minutes to do this test. After that interview with 3 to 4 management pilots. Starts with tell us about yourself and how you got into aviation. If you are type rated on one of their aircraft type then few questions about systems. Memory items. Then general questions such as: When do you need takeoff alternate? What is contaminated runway? Squawk codes? How many segments are there? Pitot blocked what will happen? V speeds? Induced drag/advection fog? RVSM levels and requirements? TAF/Metal questions.*
2nd day you might do SIM or medical. You must do full type rating course with*Saudi*even if you are type rated. Which will take about 9 months! You can't go back to your home country when in training. They make big promises which will never happen in reality. Roster is big problem that is why many pilots are moving to EY, EK, QR. For every small things you need to email lots of department and wait forever to get reply.
You start day with a multiple choice FAA ATP test which will be one hour. 50 questions taken from Gleim's. Four to five questions will be repeated in the test.*
10 reasoning and mental math questions, 20 minutes to do this test. After that interview with 3 to 4 management pilots. Starts with tell us about yourself and how you got into aviation. If you are type rated on one of their aircraft type then few questions about systems. Memory items. Then general questions such as: When do you need takeoff alternate? What is contaminated runway? Squawk codes? How many segments are there? Pitot blocked what will happen? V speeds? Induced drag/advection fog? RVSM levels and requirements? TAF/Metal questions.*
2nd day you might do SIM or medical. You must do full type rating course with*Saudi*even if you are type rated. Which will take about 9 months! You can't go back to your home country when in training. They make big promises which will never happen in reality. Roster is big problem that is why many pilots are moving to EY, EK, QR. For every small things you need to email lots of department and wait forever to get reply.
10-29-2015, 10:50 AM
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Upgrade forget it, this is not for expats FO!! If you get hireded as FO, you will stay FO forever.
Compound life: For new hires no more compound housing. Management is looking out for cheaper rentals places close to airport area for expats.*
Base : JED and RUH (most are offered JED)*
Money is okay on B777 only, but for A320/A330 not so good. A320 guys do very few layovers a month.*
Pick EY, EK, QR over*Saudi. There are otherSaudi*forums on*airlinepilotforums.com*read them you will get good idea.*
QOL*
So, you wanted a more hardcore perspective,*this one is for you. Firstly, let me lay it right out: for an expat living in*SaudiArabia, there isn’t much to do locally. Don’t expect cinemas, bar restaurants / bars, or anything like that. The kingdom is*not built for entertainment. Many things you take for granted in the USA*are illegal*or frowned upon here.*
This may actually change your mind in case you were considered being an expat living inSaudi*Arabia. You absolutely can't date, even if you are a local or an expat living in*SaudiArabia. That doesn’t mean people don’t date, but you can't meet publicly*or be seen together. The religious police have every right to stop you and ask for your marriage license. If you don’t have one,*guess what happens? You go straight to jail—unless you’re a good smooth-talker.
Even if you are discrete*about dating, all of the restaurants and coffee shops are*sectioned off between men’s sections and family/women’s sections.*You can risk it, walk in, and pretend to be married, but if the religious police finds out,*you’re toast. There are also rumors of cash awards being handed out for those who report suspicious couples who turn out to be unmarried. Many locals get married so that they may live a more “normal” life. Being a single guy in*Saudi*Arabia sucks since you can't enter the family sections. Commissioned by the*committee for the promotion of virtue and the prevention of vice,*these religious policemen*enforce the strict-Shari’a law of the kingdom. They cruise the streets in white SUVs, looking out for anyone*committing sin. They wear regular white thobes and are*occasionally escortedby a policeman or two.
As an expat living in*Saudi*Arabia, one of the first things you will notice about the people here is*their fear*of this religious patrol. The patrol generally roams around in pairs and toutlong bears*(signs of Islamic devotion). If these men*catch you*walking with a woman that is not a direct relative / your wife, or breaking the religious law in any way–such as a woman driving or not wearing her veil–they have*full authority to arrest you*and take you to jail. An expat living in*Saudi*Arabia may also be surprised to find out that prayer times, which happen 5 times a day,*are mandatory. If you are Muslim, you are required to pray. If they catch you outside a Starbucks drinking a latte during prayer time, they most likely will harass you or, in extreme cases,*haul you off to prison. With that said, they will usually leave expats alone—unless you look Arabic.
Every country has its cultures and traditions. One which an expat living in*Saudi*Arabia may find very frustrating is the*constant closing of shops. Muslims pray five times a day, and these prayer time windows last about thirty minute. During this time, shops are required to close and sales to stop. If you’re a person who likes lounging around coffee shops or malls,*be aware*that prayer times will cause shop closures. Gyms also close during prayer time. The whole city literally stops. An expat living inSaudi*Arabia needs to understand and*accept this cultural difference. Now this doesn’t mean some places don't violate the law*and stay open during prayer times (some gyms just turn their lights off, shut their doors, and leave their members inside), but those aren’t common. Since I practically live at Starbucks, they don’t mind that I stay inside during prayer time. I just need to*remain away*from the windows and out of sight. But that doesn’t stop the religious police from walking in and asking you what you’re doing there, then fining the establishment. They may even take you both to jail.*
Okay you are not single then this is for your wife : Being a woman in*Saudi*Arabia means*you can't drive. You will need to either obtain a personal driver, share a driver with other women, or get a taxi.*If you are seen*driving a car, you will be taken to prison. Yes, I know some women have*recently started driving in protest. They do not do it often, nor do they go long distances.*If they get caught, they most likely will go to prison. Your wife will get very bored very fast here because of her social life in*Saudi. Be ready to hear how she hates living in*Saudi*Arabia.*
Kids:*
I don't have kids so no first hand experience. But one of my friend left*Saudi*because his boys were getting harassed by local youth. Boys were forced to learn about Allah and how Allah is Only One God. If they will not believe in Allah they will face painful death blah blah blah.........*
As an expat working in*Saudi*Arabia I have had only three minor incidents, none of which were serious. I was spat at from a moving car by a group of*Saudi*youths (around the 20’s mark I would guess), and I had another group of boredSaudi*youth over take me whilst driving only to open both passenger doors of my side and the youths to hang out of the car shouting at me in Arabic and making gestures – they soon jumped back in when I put my foot on the accelerator and drove at them (Probably not a good move on my part!). If you are not Muslim it is good enough reason for them to start fight. Cops will never ever support you, if you don't know Arabic.*
Please no more questions because I don't want to sound like negative person. Praying every day for interview invite from AA/DL/UA so I can get out of this hell -*Saudi*Arabia.
Compound life: For new hires no more compound housing. Management is looking out for cheaper rentals places close to airport area for expats.*
Base : JED and RUH (most are offered JED)*
Money is okay on B777 only, but for A320/A330 not so good. A320 guys do very few layovers a month.*
Pick EY, EK, QR over*Saudi. There are otherSaudi*forums on*airlinepilotforums.com*read them you will get good idea.*
QOL*
So, you wanted a more hardcore perspective,*this one is for you. Firstly, let me lay it right out: for an expat living in*SaudiArabia, there isn’t much to do locally. Don’t expect cinemas, bar restaurants / bars, or anything like that. The kingdom is*not built for entertainment. Many things you take for granted in the USA*are illegal*or frowned upon here.*
This may actually change your mind in case you were considered being an expat living inSaudi*Arabia. You absolutely can't date, even if you are a local or an expat living in*SaudiArabia. That doesn’t mean people don’t date, but you can't meet publicly*or be seen together. The religious police have every right to stop you and ask for your marriage license. If you don’t have one,*guess what happens? You go straight to jail—unless you’re a good smooth-talker.
Even if you are discrete*about dating, all of the restaurants and coffee shops are*sectioned off between men’s sections and family/women’s sections.*You can risk it, walk in, and pretend to be married, but if the religious police finds out,*you’re toast. There are also rumors of cash awards being handed out for those who report suspicious couples who turn out to be unmarried. Many locals get married so that they may live a more “normal” life. Being a single guy in*Saudi*Arabia sucks since you can't enter the family sections. Commissioned by the*committee for the promotion of virtue and the prevention of vice,*these religious policemen*enforce the strict-Shari’a law of the kingdom. They cruise the streets in white SUVs, looking out for anyone*committing sin. They wear regular white thobes and are*occasionally escortedby a policeman or two.
As an expat living in*Saudi*Arabia, one of the first things you will notice about the people here is*their fear*of this religious patrol. The patrol generally roams around in pairs and toutlong bears*(signs of Islamic devotion). If these men*catch you*walking with a woman that is not a direct relative / your wife, or breaking the religious law in any way–such as a woman driving or not wearing her veil–they have*full authority to arrest you*and take you to jail. An expat living in*Saudi*Arabia may also be surprised to find out that prayer times, which happen 5 times a day,*are mandatory. If you are Muslim, you are required to pray. If they catch you outside a Starbucks drinking a latte during prayer time, they most likely will harass you or, in extreme cases,*haul you off to prison. With that said, they will usually leave expats alone—unless you look Arabic.
Every country has its cultures and traditions. One which an expat living in*Saudi*Arabia may find very frustrating is the*constant closing of shops. Muslims pray five times a day, and these prayer time windows last about thirty minute. During this time, shops are required to close and sales to stop. If you’re a person who likes lounging around coffee shops or malls,*be aware*that prayer times will cause shop closures. Gyms also close during prayer time. The whole city literally stops. An expat living inSaudi*Arabia needs to understand and*accept this cultural difference. Now this doesn’t mean some places don't violate the law*and stay open during prayer times (some gyms just turn their lights off, shut their doors, and leave their members inside), but those aren’t common. Since I practically live at Starbucks, they don’t mind that I stay inside during prayer time. I just need to*remain away*from the windows and out of sight. But that doesn’t stop the religious police from walking in and asking you what you’re doing there, then fining the establishment. They may even take you both to jail.*
Okay you are not single then this is for your wife : Being a woman in*Saudi*Arabia means*you can't drive. You will need to either obtain a personal driver, share a driver with other women, or get a taxi.*If you are seen*driving a car, you will be taken to prison. Yes, I know some women have*recently started driving in protest. They do not do it often, nor do they go long distances.*If they get caught, they most likely will go to prison. Your wife will get very bored very fast here because of her social life in*Saudi. Be ready to hear how she hates living in*Saudi*Arabia.*
Kids:*
I don't have kids so no first hand experience. But one of my friend left*Saudi*because his boys were getting harassed by local youth. Boys were forced to learn about Allah and how Allah is Only One God. If they will not believe in Allah they will face painful death blah blah blah.........*
As an expat working in*Saudi*Arabia I have had only three minor incidents, none of which were serious. I was spat at from a moving car by a group of*Saudi*youths (around the 20’s mark I would guess), and I had another group of boredSaudi*youth over take me whilst driving only to open both passenger doors of my side and the youths to hang out of the car shouting at me in Arabic and making gestures – they soon jumped back in when I put my foot on the accelerator and drove at them (Probably not a good move on my part!). If you are not Muslim it is good enough reason for them to start fight. Cops will never ever support you, if you don't know Arabic.*
Please no more questions because I don't want to sound like negative person. Praying every day for interview invite from AA/DL/UA so I can get out of this hell -*Saudi*Arabia.
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