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Old 10-22-2017, 10:44 AM   #11
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Or their desperation.

Supply and demand.

A buddy of mine was paid about $125K with all lodging paid to fly a CRJ in Uruguay for a year, and QOL there was awesome.

That said, I'm sure the QOL isn't too great, haha.
I was with that group in Uruguay. It was awesome. Brand new 900's straight from the factory. Montevideo is an awesome oceanfront beach community with very friendly locals. Flying to Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, and Chile. Had a blast and made a ton of dough. That gig was one in a million though. Most expat gigs blow. lol Too bad the airline went belly up and no longer exists.
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:19 AM   #12
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I was with that group in Uruguay. It was awesome. Brand new 900's straight from the factory. Montevideo is an awesome oceanfront beach community with very friendly locals. Flying to Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, and Chile. Had a blast and made a ton of dough. That gig was one in a million though. Most expat gigs blow. lol Too bad the airline went belly up and no longer exists.
That WAS an awesome gig.
I even went down and visited him... and maybe even you?
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:03 PM   #13
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Salary quoted is incorrect.

Before you make any income, you will have to go thru hell to pass Medical, ATP theory Exam ' half pilots fail” and company check-ride.
Medical results most the time are incorrect "Political reasons" if diagnosed with anything abnormal, you will have to wait and wait to get it corrected, sometimes more than 3 months.

Once you spend 2 to 5 months dealing with all that, and provided you pass all, you will sign the contract and start making $6000 per month.
Then you will go thru Sim training for your Government Check ride " Sim is the most sensitive Sim in the world. Provided you pass all training that involves too much political drama, you will go for your Chinese ATPL License government Check ride. Examiner is a young arrogant that passes whomever he likes, he uses his Iphone 80% of the time while giving you check ride. If you are lucky, and he lies you, you'll pass, if not you'll be sent home.

After passing check ride, you will have to do 3 touch and go's "very easy” you'll just sit there and the instructor does everything including flaring, landing with on the controls. "They do not trust you" even if you have 10,000 hours on the CRJ.

After all that, you will do more sim training, then the company check ride. Then you go for line training, this is where you will have to have extreme patience and kissing you knows what. It used to be minimum 25 hours line training, but now its 50 hours minimum, plus a line check after each 25 hours. You will be yelled at, laughed at and they will make you feel like you have never flown an airplane before.

3 captains were asked to give their Chinese ATPL back to the government, claiming they needed to verify 121 flight hours, after they had to wait 2 months after passing check ride for verification, even though there are pilots flying the line with no part 121 hours. So some pilots been on training pay for over one year.

After that, provided you pass and get released, you will be released as a Captain, and will start making 11,500 per month. Remember if you do the rotation 30 days on, 30 off, you will have to fly 900 to 950 hours for the 6 months you are there, to make any bonus pay, so your one month rotation from the 15th until the 15th you have to fly 150 hours, double the amount of flying you are used to in normal countries. “They call from the 15th until the end of the same month a whole month."

In order to make more than 138,000 per year, you have to be always on time, not being sick and flying the minimum hours above, having perfect safety records with no QAR “preset parameters.”
You will receive daily threats, to follow SOP and to follow their orders. Your two FO’s you’ll be flying with “some hardly speak English” always monitoring you, and reporting to the chief!

Xcpats moral is down. A lot of Drama!!! One Xcpat pilot just got arrested for one day, for having little liquor in his overnight bag to take to the hotel. They got him out, and split home as he was being punished with a fine and suspension.
PM me if you need to know more! I have all the facts, and can show you!
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:09 PM   #14
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Sweet! Sounds good, where do I sign up?
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:14 PM   #15
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Chinese medicals are very tough, but the Chinese airlines are trying to change that.

I have read, from numerous sources, for example, if you are over 50, and in PERFECT health you have a 50/50 chance of passing the medical.
Also, as described above, LOTS of false positive test results for all kinds of medical issues. Some guys were taking their medicals in various provinces, passing in some, failing in others...

I was offered a job in China, and I turned it down, partly because of the physical exam situation...
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:07 PM   #16
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Chinese medicals are very tough, but the Chinese airlines are trying to change that.

I have read, from numerous sources, for example, if you are over 50, and in PERFECT health you have a 50/50 chance of passing the medical.
Also, as described above, LOTS of false positive test results for all kinds of medical issues. Some guys were taking their medicals in various provinces, passing in some, failing in others...

I was offered a job in China, and I turned it down, partly because of the physical exam situation...
I agree with most of this. What I would add is that the medical is not difficult in the sense that you do not have to do anything special. It is very thorough, but not demanding. Full body CT scan, EKG, eyes, ears, blood work for just about everything, and very tight standards. I failed once for having too high creatine levels; I was taking creatine!

I tell all my friends, whether you want to work in China or not, go for the medical. It is the most comprehensive medical you will have, and it's free. Don't take the job, just do the medical. Within three months, three people I know had major diagnosis. One had a brain tumor and was in surgery within a week from leaving the medical. Another had cardiovascular issues and was in heart surgery within the month. And one had an aneurysm discovered on the carotid artery. There have been others, but I'm not as familiar with them. Any age, any aircraft type, any company, I suggest going for a free medical. If you get misdiagnosed, just get a second opinion back home.
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Old 11-19-2017, 09:28 PM   #17
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I'll pass on the full body CT scan for no reason thx
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