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SonicFlyer 06-30-2017 10:14 AM

Horizon cutting flights due to pilot shortage
 
Horizon Air cutting hundreds of flights this summer due to pilot shortage | The Seattle Times

atpcliff 07-01-2017 01:01 AM

Horizon Air is canceling hundreds of flights because of the "pilot shortage." It's airlines' fault.

"...American companies don’t have a shortage of people. They have a shortage of wages, benefits, and training. Companies could fix that problem, but they haven’t.
...
But many businesses seem blind to the reality. They’ve become accustomed to thinking they have can have all the labor they want, with all the skills they need, without having to pay much for it or offer long-term job security or help fund the training.
...
To recruit new employees, offer to train them yourselves, or to pay back the loans they incur while getting the training that will enable you to run your business, or offer to split the flight school tuition in exchange for a commitment to work for the airline for several years.

There’s a phrase people in companies use when colleagues complain of a challenging situation. “You’re a businessperson. Figure it out.” Managers and leaders get paid to figure out how to solve the problems they face. Coping with a shortage of skilled workers by shuttering a portion of your operations doesn’t seem like much of a solution."

Island Time 07-02-2017 07:58 PM

Great article. Horizon could be a case study at business school someday.

YXnot 07-04-2017 07:03 AM

Certain individuals might consider requesting a refund from their MBA educators

bozobigtop 07-04-2017 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2388065)
Horizon Air is canceling hundreds of flights because of the "pilot shortage." It's airlines' fault.

"...American companies don’t have a shortage of people. They have a shortage of wages, benefits, and training. Companies could fix that problem, but they haven’t.
...
But many businesses seem blind to the reality. They’ve become accustomed to thinking they have can have all the labor they want, with all the skills they need, without having to pay much for it or offer long-term job security or help fund the training.
...
To recruit new employees, offer to train them yourselves, or to pay back the loans they incur while getting the training that will enable you to run your business, or offer to split the flight school tuition in exchange for a commitment to work for the airline for several years.

There’s a phrase people in companies use when colleagues complain of a challenging situation. “You’re a businessperson. Figure it out.” Managers and leaders get paid to figure out how to solve the problems they face. Coping with a shortage of skilled workers by shuttering a portion of your operations doesn’t seem like much of a solution."

It's a viable solution if your plan are to pay your employees less than the going market for education and training for any industry. This is exactly what the airline industry is doing as a whole and the regional airline sector in particular. I left the regional airline industry 20 years ago and the only difference is more regional jets.

Taco280AI 07-13-2017 12:12 PM

I wonder if Horizon will end up with a rotor-to-fixed program like the handful of others who are doing it.

Varsity 07-13-2017 07:48 PM

A flow would serve them better.

Strenyakov 07-25-2017 11:39 AM

We Need To Bring In Foreign Workers Because Of The Severe Labor Shortage Of Skilled Labor!

There are many thousands of airline pilots sitting at home with over 15,000 hours of airline captain experience and the airlines are screaming for pilots! What is up with that? Why wouldn't a former Midwest, Ryan, World, ATA or other experienced pilot who used to make 120 to 300k per year take one of the many available regional jobs where they are willing to pay you 33,000 per year? Some will even offer a 20k starting bonus.

Not just that, try putting an add in the paper or online for a medical doctor letting them know you will pay them 35,000 per year with a 20k starting bonus and see how many applicants you get, probably none.

Do you have a BS in Electrical Engineering from a descent university? Why won't you work for the offered $35,000?

Obviously we need to bring in foreign workers to fill these JOBS THAT AMERICANS JUST DON'T WANT TO DO!

In fact, give them a visa tied to the hiring company so that they cannot change companies and the airline can train the person ab initio. The lower wages for the next 20 years will cover the training.

JetDoc 07-25-2017 02:28 PM

The hits just keep coming. Hang in there guys and gals.

http://www.seattletimes.com/busines....into-the-fall/

N19906 07-25-2017 09:50 PM

What? Wait a sec!
The general public's gonna find out what our lifestyle is like, (all of us) ?!?!
Oh, the Kool-Aid is tasting bitter...


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