sssergio

So there's a 2 month delay between the completion of sim training and the beginning of IOE. Do you get to stay home during that time and do something else such as flight instruction? Reserve starts with IOE right?

ftaba1

Thanks Vanilla and DashAviator, your answers are very helpful! I have a few more questions though.

16 hours per week at $40/hr for FO's? What about per diem during training?
To get full 25K bonus how much 121 time does one need to have?
Double occupancy or single for hotels during training?

DashAviator

It's been a LOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG time since I did initial training. If I recall correctly, we got per diem during sim training only, not during the ground school portion of training. Hotel was double occupancy during ground school, single occupancy during sim training. It's good if you can room with your sim partner during ground training, but this won't always happen.

Vanilla

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Originally Posted by ftaba1

Thanks Vanilla and DashAviator, your answers are very helpful! I have a few more questions though.

16 hours per week at $40/hr for FO's? What about per diem during training?
To get tfull 25K bonus how much 121 time does one need to have?
Double occupancy or single for hotels during training?

Yes to the pay. No per diem during class. Sim training, yes.

The E175 bonus(20k) is paid out as follows: (add 5k if you got the Q route)

The time that qualifies is:

Any 121 time
Part 135 PIC time with multi-engine and multi-crew
Military PIC (Commander) time with multi-engine and multi-crew

So if you calculate how many hours you have in these categories it will determine your bonus.

< 500 Hours you will receive $10,000 ($5,000 after OE and $5,000 18 months after OE)
500-749 Hours you will receive $15,000 ($10,000 after OE and $5,000 18 months after OE)
750+ Hours you will receive $20,000 ($15,000 after OE and $5,000 18 months after OE)

It's single occupancy during training starting day 1.

ftaba1

Would one get full bonus if upgraded early with the previous 121 experience (say before the first year is over)?

Flyinlynn

So with no prior 121, 135 or Military time that would still be a $10,000 bonus is that correct?

Excargodog

So if I'm getting this right, unless you are going to Horizon to essentially become a street captain in the Q400, which will keep you eternally junior to everyone already working there and that "shamelessly abuses you", you would do better to go to someplace like Compass which gives everyone the $17,500 bonus within the first year rather than dragging parts of it out for 18 months, isn't going to have you sit around for months doing nothing in the middle of that training, and is actually going to get you on the line flying full schedules and making real money (to the extent regionals let you make real money) and acquiring the hours to upgrade and apply to the majors a whole lot quicker.

Look, every regional has it's problems, but it seems to me that Horizon was the only one that had to defer new planes it had coming to future months and lease new planes it had in Alaska livery to Skywest to have them fly Alaska routes just to TRY to cover their own scheduling, and even then had to cut back service. By any standard, that was badly botched.

Clearly Horizon management has totally floundered on the transition to E-175s. Yes, I know, more aircraft are coming, but the world has changed. Even newbies can be selective because MOST of us are getting MULTIPLE offers. Can anyone tell us what management changes have occurred that would reassure us that the things that happened last summer and fall are not harbingers of what will happen in the future.

And as for street captains, does ANYBODY with experience in flying the Q400 at Horizon think that putting someone with 1000 hrs of 121 SIC time in some OTHER aircraft in the left seat of a Q400 and having him/her and a rookie FO shoot real world CAT III approaches into GEG on an ice-fog night is a good thing? I mean, what is your honest PROFESSIONAL opinion of that? Would you want your family in the back of that aircraft?

And I understand, you want Horizon to be successful and that requires new hires, but I asked for your professional opinion as an aviator, not as a Horizon employee.

ftaba1

Does QX offer loss of medical insurance? And if yes, how much is it?

snackysmores

We gave our CEO 1.8 million dollars so we could fire him.

It's not safe, we all know it. The FAA knows it. The company would rather risk safety than have to cancel flights again or offer premium pay. "Well, it's legal" has always been the companies response to moral and ethical dilemmas. Management sends us emails every week reminding us to be safe and that safety is always #1. I believe they do that just in case something happens they can throw their arms up and say "but we told them to be safe! not our fault!"

The only thing I can take solace in is that our training department is aware of this and will not be holding any hands. The Q400 CA check ride is NOT easy and plenty of FOs with years of experience on the aircraft are still failing it. Then they still have to pass CA IOE as well and prove they can handle our operation. During the summer it's easy, winter is a different story for someone with no time on the a/c.

Excargodog

A PROFESSIONAL answer and pretty much what I had surmised. Thanks.