flyfast2u

Didn't you just get hired at Skywest into the CRJ ? and start CPT / Ground school with them recently?
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pete2800

This is correct.

Flyinlynn

Yes I did but I washed out in the sims :-(

I made it through Indoc, systems and procedures validation.

Big jump from VFR CFI in a Cessna 152 to flows, callouts, tasks, FMS, glass panel, and a jet all at one time in 10 hours. (Five 4 hour sessions split with your partner so 10 hours of PF) they do allow up to 10 more hours but if you use all the extra training you will be fired and have a PRIA event on your record. So before you get to that point the option is to resign.

Trying to figure out what to do next

Fixnem2Flyinem

I will say this as someone who has been through both SkyWest and Horizon training programs and passed both within the last year or so. Yes, I went from SkyWest to Horizon... I know, against the flow of traffic. However, that whole no commuter clause and no union thing really didn't pan out well for me as much as the SkyWest guys bark about having a great deal with no protection.

I went through the ERJ at SkyWest and it was a cake walk compared to the Q400 sim training at Horizon. I'm not sure of the difference in training difficulties between the ERJ and Q at Horizon, but due to the complex procedures (RNP, Cat 3, special airports) that the Q is capable of, their expectations are pretty high as far as keeping up with flows and procedures while flying what is a very high workload airplane.

With that being said, Since you now have a taste of the 121 firehose it may be easier for you the second time around. I wouldn't recommend the Q, people are failing out of the training on that plane at a pretty high frequency, but the ERJ will be better for you living in SEA anyway. The friends I've talked to that have been in the ERJ program said it was pretty easy, but they also had some previous 121 experience. If you felt overwhelmed maybe grabbing some 135 time will be the best option prior to trying for Horizon, but that is just my take. Please don't take that the wrong way, as you are the one that knows best what you are capable of. I flew 135 prior to 121, and it was a big help in my opinion. Best of luck and if you get on board and have more detailed questions, PM me and I'll get you in touch with some that have recently went through the training.

Fixnem2Flyinem

Also, as much as people are talking about Horizon being a pile of burning dung, I have been happy here so far. The grass is never greener on the other side, and SkyWest agreeing to their great 1% pay raise will haunt them soon enough, as much as those kool aid drinkers on here say otherwise.... When majors start hiring 700 plus a year each, SkyWest will have a very hard time hiring to keep up with attrition alone on top of the growth that they are planning. Just look at how they are talking about a basically DEC job in ATL now, that's because everyone east is going with the better options.

I once worked for a 135 carrier that grew exponentially, just to die two years later because they couldn't keep the cockpits staffed. A cyclical industry this is, and hopefully the cycle will continue upwards in the coming years

word302

Meh. Management is pretty smart. Don’t underestimate their ability to do just enough to keep the fools flowing in.

Fixnem2Flyinem

I didn't mean that with any disrespect to those that fly at SkyWest, I have many friends there and hope they don't get the turd tasting end of the stick. Management may be smart, but when they're already flipping over every rock to find new hires, offering visas for Australian pilots at a high rate and offering lateral move incentives instead of raising pay for those already on board, that shows you they don't have current employees best interests at heart. But what regional does at this point? :/

Flyinlynn

A couple of friends have suggest doing some cargo time like Ameriflight or Empire. I have also heard that had I gone ERJ I might have still been there but who knows.

So yeah thinking about Horizon but as you said not the Q400. I did just have this recent experience so I know better what to expect. Or cargo then Horizon. I figure I can overcome one wash out but if I wash out again I doubt I would get a third try.

Right now I am working on increasing my instrument proficiency in a C172 with G1000 and planning my next move.

Thanks

Fixnem2Flyinem

IFR proficiency is key in 121 training. Knowing the procedures, the rules, and having a good scan will boost your chances of passing. I hope you get back on that horse soon and go for planes bigger than GA. Ameriflight is a hard program as well, for good reason. That is a job you can kill yourself quickly, because you go 99% of the time. The one issue I have heard with people only with GA CFI backgrounds, is their lack of flying in weather. Go 135 for a year and you will have the bad weather and IFR proficient box checked for sure!

word302

No offense taken. Problem is we’re still getting close to 100/month. I don’t know where they’re all coming from but there aren’t many Aussie accents in the Denver schoolhouse if any. We won’t see a penny until hiring slows.