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IcedOutAP 10-19-2019 03:49 PM

Q vs ERJ and class dates
 
Got a CJO for the Q with a class date in January and requested Spokane as my base because they said the Q pilots there are the busiest. If I want the jet instead I need to let them know very soon and those class dates are closer to end of spring (May). They seemed optimistic that there would be more flying available for Q FO’s on account of the new Q400s they are adding and it sounds like people are finally starting to get upgraded to the ERJ from the Q.

I am a California native who will be commuting from the Bay Area for the first few months while my significant other sees if she can land a job up here (she will know by March most likely). If that doesn’t work out I may be stuck commuting for the foreseeable future from the Bay... I also have an interview soon with SkyWest, but their class dates are June/July.

My questions for you guys: 1) I want to fly as much as I can, ERJ or Q? 2)Does 5 months of seniority matter since I just want the most flight time? Q might be the high risk, high reward option: I start sooner, but would also start before I know I’m moving up here. If I request ERJ I could just play it safe and choose Horizon or SkyWest based of off where I end up living. 3) how difficult is the commute from the bay to Spokane or even for that matter from Seattle to Spokane.

Thanks for any and all help - AP.

MooneyGuy128 10-20-2019 11:37 AM

First off I don’t think you want to be Spokane based without living in Spokane. Some people do it but Spokane has a lot of 1 and 2 day trips which make commuting difficult and even once you are able to hold a line you would still need a crash pad.

Q reserve FO’s have seen a small uptick in flying recently however for practically the past year they hardly got any flying at all. I once went an entire month without getting called off reserve at all, however like I said that seems to be changing. I can’t speak for the E-175 as much since I’m on the Q but it seems like their reserve time is getting just as bad if not worse than the Q reserve time. Someone else might be able to better answer that question for you.

Lastly, 5 months of seniority ABSOLUTELY does matter and can make a huge difference in your QOL especially if hiring slows down.

IcedOutAP 10-20-2019 11:52 AM

Thanks for the reply. What base would you recommend then? Not only for the amount of flying but for ease of commuting?

hydrostream 10-20-2019 12:27 PM

Portland.

Filler.

MooneyGuy128 10-20-2019 12:50 PM

Portland or SEA but on the Q you’ll get more flying out of PDX.

hydrostream 10-20-2019 01:53 PM

There hasn’t been an FO vacancy in SEA in months. I don’t think that’s a realistic option for a new hire these days. There are a few people waiting on it to open up.

flyfast2u 10-20-2019 05:06 PM

I'd recommend SkyWest ERJ if you want Seattle..... SEA is supposed to more than double in size in the next 6 to 9 months.... you could potentially get SEA right out of training..

afcraig2010 10-21-2019 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by flyfast2u (Post 2909529)
I'd recommend SkyWest ERJ if you want Seattle..... SEA is supposed to more than double in size in the next 6 to 9 months.... you could potentially get SEA right out of training..

Everyone keeps saying that but then what about captain upgrade?

amcnd 10-21-2019 04:52 AM

Seattle upgrade for OO assuming thats what you wait for (and not take the 1 month CRJ upgrade) is currently 4.5 years. Witt the base set to double. Looking at the bid list for SEA that would drip Seattle under 3 years upgrade.. (assuming the bid closed today for doubling it)

TyWebb 10-22-2019 12:28 PM

I am hearing from a couple of Compass guys that Skywest is telling them SLC, DEN, or SEA is a possibility quickly after IOE. Personally, I don't know if I'd believe that as I know people who have been with the company over a year who are waiting for their chance to move to any other base besides DTW and ORD.

At one point SF was pretty junior on the CRJ side... I have no clue if that remains true. I could find if staying put in the Bay area interests you.


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