How does coronavirus affect QX?
03-29-2020, 04:51 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
For perspective, at Alaska Airlines we will have 152 airplanes parked by April 15th. We will be left operating 87 airplanes...The last time this went down Horizon was not flying any jets for us and Skywest was operating a few CRJ 700’s for us....
hoping this will go away fast
04-02-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BigfatQ
Looks like we're upgrading 12 ppl maybe? Very surprising to get that email
They really need to bite the bullet and put pay differential beyond the 4.2 rig to get more demand for the Q positions, although that was before C19 blew everything up...
04-03-2020, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PetRock
Yeah I was surprised as well, although they have been tap-dancing around how we are short on 175 CAs trying to drive upgrades to the Q and more than they anticipated said 'pass' when offered a Q CA slot.
They really need to bite the bullet and put pay differential beyond the 4.2 rig to get more demand for the Q positions, although that was before C19 blew everything up...
They really need to bite the bullet and put pay differential beyond the 4.2 rig to get more demand for the Q positions, although that was before C19 blew everything up...
This is an honest question, please help me understand your point.
Bill's "all pilots" email was definitely a surprise. And the virus is obviously a wild card, but later or much later things will be back to "normal"...
04-03-2020, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger6
Can you expand on your comments about pay differential? When I do a quick scan of bid results it looks like the credit hours are about the same, with inefficiencies/long sits/short stages for both fleets. Though less block on the Q is undeniable...
This is an honest question, please help me understand your point.
Bill's "all pilots" email was definitely a surprise. And the virus is obviously a wild card, but later or much later things will be back to "normal"...
This is an honest question, please help me understand your point.
Bill's "all pilots" email was definitely a surprise. And the virus is obviously a wild card, but later or much later things will be back to "normal"...
More legs on average per day (pre-C19).
Less integrated systems.
Lower altitude ceilings, requiring more weather SA/avoidance.
More legs into SEA, which was a zoo pre-C19.
No one else flies the Q in the US for pax ops so its also a "dead" type rating should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ) and you have to find work somewhere else.
Yet we all get paid the same per hour. That's why no one is jumping at the chance to upgrade into the Q IMHO.
04-03-2020, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PetRock
If we actually used logic to determine pay (hah), the Q would be paid more/hr because lets be honest here, its more work and higher workload than the jet hands down.
More legs on average per day (pre-C19).
Less integrated systems.
Lower altitude ceilings, requiring more weather SA/avoidance.
More legs into SEA, which was a zoo pre-C19.
No one else flies the Q in the US for pax ops so its also a "dead" type rating should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ) and you have to find work somewhere else.
Yet we all get paid the same per hour. That's why no one is jumping at the chance to upgrade into the Q IMHO.
More legs on average per day (pre-C19).
Less integrated systems.
Lower altitude ceilings, requiring more weather SA/avoidance.
More legs into SEA, which was a zoo pre-C19.
No one else flies the Q in the US for pax ops so its also a "dead" type rating should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ) and you have to find work somewhere else.
Yet we all get paid the same per hour. That's why no one is jumping at the chance to upgrade into the Q IMHO.
Also, the Q pays 0.5% less as of December 2019. The gap increases by 0.5% every year until December 2023 (the Q will pay 2.5% less by then).
...should QX suddenly cease operations (meteorite to HQ)...
https://sweetmeteorofdeath.com/
04-04-2020, 02:32 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
For perspective, at Alaska Airlines we will have 152 airplanes parked by April 15th. We will be left operating 87 airplanes...The last time this went down Horizon was not flying any jets for us and Skywest was operating a few CRJ 700’s for us....
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