What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
#1172
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
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Posts: 24
Based on those findings, the Court concludes:
1. Horizon has unilaterally changed the rates of pay, rules, and working conditions of pilots
represented by the Union and thus violated its status quo obligations under 45 U.S.C. § 156.
2. Horizon has engaged in bad faith, surface bargaining by going through the motions of
bargaining without any desire to reach agreement. In so doing, it has failed to exert every
reasonable effort to make and maintain agreements and, thus, violated 45 U.S.C. § 152, First.
3. Horizon has dealt directly with newly hired pilots, bypassing their Union representative.
Doing so violates 45 U.S.C. §§ 152, Third and Fourth.
The Court accordingly ORDERS Horizon, its officers, agents, and representatives SHALL:
1. Restore the lawful status quo, embodied in the 2012 and 2016 CBAs, and prevailing prior to
Horizon’s unlawful implementation of new hire bonuses in January 2017 and prior to
Horizon’s unlawful implementation of tuition reimbursement in or about September 2017;
2. Cease and desist from violating the terms of the 2012 CBA and the prevailing, established
practices regarding training programs and compensation;
3. Adhere to the terms of the 2012 CBA—and, upon its effective date, the 2016 CBA—and
status quo working conditions unless and until those terms are altered with the Union’s
consent through Section 6 bargaining;
4. Refrain from interfering with, influencing, coercing, or discriminating against the Horizon
pilots represented by the Union;
5. Exert every reasonable effort to make and maintain agreements with the Union, including as
to training programs and compensation, through the lawful procedures set forth in Section 6
of the RLA;
6. Conspicuously post copies of this Court’s order at Defendant Horizon’s headquarters, crew
room locations, and flight operations facilities for a period no less than one-hundred eighty
(180) days;
7. Provide a copy of this Court’s order to every Horizon pilot covered under the 2013 CBA, by
email and certified mail at their most current addresses of record, to ameliorate the effects of
Defendant Horizon’s unlawful conduct on these pilots’ rights under the RLA.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
1. Horizon has unilaterally changed the rates of pay, rules, and working conditions of pilots
represented by the Union and thus violated its status quo obligations under 45 U.S.C. § 156.
2. Horizon has engaged in bad faith, surface bargaining by going through the motions of
bargaining without any desire to reach agreement. In so doing, it has failed to exert every
reasonable effort to make and maintain agreements and, thus, violated 45 U.S.C. § 152, First.
3. Horizon has dealt directly with newly hired pilots, bypassing their Union representative.
Doing so violates 45 U.S.C. §§ 152, Third and Fourth.
The Court accordingly ORDERS Horizon, its officers, agents, and representatives SHALL:
1. Restore the lawful status quo, embodied in the 2012 and 2016 CBAs, and prevailing prior to
Horizon’s unlawful implementation of new hire bonuses in January 2017 and prior to
Horizon’s unlawful implementation of tuition reimbursement in or about September 2017;
2. Cease and desist from violating the terms of the 2012 CBA and the prevailing, established
practices regarding training programs and compensation;
3. Adhere to the terms of the 2012 CBA—and, upon its effective date, the 2016 CBA—and
status quo working conditions unless and until those terms are altered with the Union’s
consent through Section 6 bargaining;
4. Refrain from interfering with, influencing, coercing, or discriminating against the Horizon
pilots represented by the Union;
5. Exert every reasonable effort to make and maintain agreements with the Union, including as
to training programs and compensation, through the lawful procedures set forth in Section 6
of the RLA;
6. Conspicuously post copies of this Court’s order at Defendant Horizon’s headquarters, crew
room locations, and flight operations facilities for a period no less than one-hundred eighty
(180) days;
7. Provide a copy of this Court’s order to every Horizon pilot covered under the 2013 CBA, by
email and certified mail at their most current addresses of record, to ameliorate the effects of
Defendant Horizon’s unlawful conduct on these pilots’ rights under the RLA.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
#1173
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 62
9 was probably all they had show up for interviews. The class at the beginning of January was a class of 2 new hires. One of them being 62 years old. ( no disrespect meant ) . No way they would have a class of 2 unless people didn`t show up.
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#1177
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: "Hey Dumb Dumb"
Posts: 109
You are an "Airline Transport Pilot" you will have lives relying on you to be safe, well rested, free of company distractions and in the right frame of mind to make sure your passengers arrive safely.
#1178
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 186
Your response is a cop-out (sp) pilots that have spent over $60,000 in training and are responsible FOR THE LIVES OF PAYING PASSENGERS are smart enough to figure out and do "due diligence" into which companies are at odds with their unions.
You are an "Airline Transport Pilot" you will have lives relying on you to be safe, well rested, free of company distractions and in the right frame of mind to make sure your passengers arrive safely.
You are an "Airline Transport Pilot" you will have lives relying on you to be safe, well rested, free of company distractions and in the right frame of mind to make sure your passengers arrive safely.
#1179
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: "Hey Dumb Dumb"
Posts: 109
You should know that in the real world, Airlinepilotforums.com is a bit of a joke because this site is garbage. Most of the topics here are 1000 pages of the same few people ranting about how much they hate their job. The rest contains a lot of blatantly false information. When the reaction about this site from most line pilots is "hah, you read that crap?!" I can't blame new hires for not using this as a primary source of information. If they did then nobody would go to any regional because every single topic here is about how nobody should go to that regional.
And although there are a lot of complainers me being one about the helicopter pilot discrimination that takes place there is a lot of good information about interview prep that I am currently using.
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