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Old 10-18-2017, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux View Post
This. ^

I wish we would get CAT 3.

The weather cancels donít actually count against us (or anyone) as they are considered uncontrollable. The decision to cancel a flight due to a weather delay come down from AAG.
They arenít uncontrollable if someone else (Horizon) can do them. Yes, Skywest still gets paid and it doesnít necessarily count against your metric. The reason Alaska cancels the flights is so things doesnít snowball into the rest of the day.

Do you really think bean counters donít notice that Horizon could complete the flight and you canít?

Heck, if you could just get your RNP stuff together, you could be doing winter Juneau work for Delta. Delta would rather pull out entirely rather than accept the abysmal reliability you were giving us.

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Old 10-18-2017, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cornbeef007 View Post
They arenít uncontrollable if someone else (Horizon) can do them. Yes, Skywest still gets paid and it doesnít necessarily count against your metric. The reason Alaska cancels the flights is so things doesnít snowball into the rest of the day.

Do you really think bean counters donít notice that Horizon could complete the flight and you canít?

Heck, if you could just get your RNP stuff together, you could be doing winter Juneau work for Delta. Delta would rather pull out entirely rather than accept the abysmal reliability you were giving us.
Weather isnít controllable.

Alaska and Delta both contract for a product. That currently doesnít include RNP or CAT III. Everything comes with a price.

Thus far, the ďbean countersĒ have determined that the cost outweighs the benefit. If they want it, they will get it. RNP is in the works.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux View Post
Weather isnít controllable.

Alaska and Delta both contract for a product. That currently doesnít include RNP or CAT III. Everything comes with a price.

Thus far, the ďbean countersĒ have determined that the cost outweighs the benefit. If they want it, they will get it. RNP is in the works.
Well I imagine that once Horizon gets their staffing issues back in order, Skywests lack of CAT 3 and RNP will be considered for future contracts.

This just helps solidify the case to keep thing in-house for the Alaska Air Group.
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Originally Posted by cornbeef007 View Post
Well I imagine that once Horizon gets their staffing issues back in order, Skywests lack of CAT 3 and RNP will be considered for future contracts.

This just helps solidify the case to keep thing in-house for the Alaska Air Group.
CAT III and RNP are nothing new and the past few days are unremarkable.

Horizon will never get their staffing issues in order. Decisions have already been made regarding the future of Horizon. The only remaining question is how it will unfold.
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux View Post
CAT III and RNP are nothing new and the past few days are unremarkable.

Horizon will never get their staffing issues in order. Decisions have already been made regarding the future of Horizon. The only remaining question is how it will unfold.
The last few days are remarkable. You are canceling when Horizon wouldnít be. Every cancellation matters and your lack of low weather ability helps AAG understand that. Just like Juneau for Delta, your lack of reliability will be amount to a deterioration of your cost effectiveness.

Horizon will be fine...they will still get their jets.
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cornbeef007 View Post
The last few days are remarkable. You are canceling when Horizon wouldnít be. Every cancellation matters and your lack of low weather ability helps AAG understand that. Just like Juneau for Delta, your lack of reliability will be amount to a deterioration of your cost effectiveness.

Horizon will be fine...they will still get their jets.
LOL. I'm quite certain OO's reliability still destroys QX. 2 days ain't gonna change that.
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux View Post
Decisions have already been made regarding the future of Horizon.
Enlighten us. Please.
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Enlighten us. Please.
Eh, don't feed him. He just thinks he can lower our Morale and peel off recruits by posting negativity on a forum where nobody likes him.
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800 View Post
Enlighten us. Please.
What would happen if it were announced that the experiment with the 175 was coming to an end? That Horizon would be shrunk down to about 20 Q400s?

If you were in management and knew that decision had been made, how would you proceed in the short term? What would you tell the employees? What steps would you take?
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux View Post
What would happen if it were announced that the experiment with the 175 was coming to an end? That Horizon would be shrunk down to about 20 Q400s?

If you were in management and knew that decision had been made, how would you proceed in the short term? What would you tell the employees? What steps would you take?
Sad troll is sad.
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