What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
#2971
Those who have 121 time and want to be a PDX/SEA based captain on the Q it's a good deal. The transition won't be that bad when you're already used to the airline pace and you've likely encountered some stuff on the line at your current gig. Just study hard and ask as many questions as possible.
While the plane has quirks once you learn them it's easy to fly and you can do some pretty cool stuff like hand flying a CAT III down to a 50ft DH using a HUD. This has been a very mild winter so by the time you finish training it will be spring and you'll have the rest of the year to learn the airplane in fair weather before the next winter sh*tstorm arrives.
While the plane has quirks once you learn them it's easy to fly and you can do some pretty cool stuff like hand flying a CAT III down to a 50ft DH using a HUD. This has been a very mild winter so by the time you finish training it will be spring and you'll have the rest of the year to learn the airplane in fair weather before the next winter sh*tstorm arrives.
#2974
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#2975
When is Horizon going to start shelling out the $45,000 bonuses for prior 121 experience? That’s how Envoy is trying to deal with their Captain shortages.
At Skywest our current most junior PDX CA is at 7 years... amazing how this industry has changed in the past few years. I’m sure we will be having some hiring and attrition issues with Horizon new hire upgrades, Envoy 45k bonuses, Our junior bases are endeavor bases, losing pilots to Spirit with their new TA, etc etc...
Good for you guys having movement and being able to upgrade to the PNW in a timely manner. Good luck to you guys.
At Skywest our current most junior PDX CA is at 7 years... amazing how this industry has changed in the past few years. I’m sure we will be having some hiring and attrition issues with Horizon new hire upgrades, Envoy 45k bonuses, Our junior bases are endeavor bases, losing pilots to Spirit with their new TA, etc etc...
Good for you guys having movement and being able to upgrade to the PNW in a timely manner. Good luck to you guys.
#2976
The IBT was notified yesterday (2/8) that the Company has stopped further development of the IT project that would incorporate the 4.2 min guarantee (Q400 only) into PBS and eCrew bidding processes. This action violates the TA (tentative agreement that amended the CBA) that was approved by this pilot group last year.
This is obviously NOT welcome news as it returns us to actions that the previous leadership team had taken while we have been repeatedly told that such actions would NOT be repeated by the new folks brought in from Alaska.
[Additionally we were advised that payments of the 4.2 would not be affected by this change.]
We will shared more info as we become aware of it.
Respectfully, your EXCO
This is obviously NOT welcome news as it returns us to actions that the previous leadership team had taken while we have been repeatedly told that such actions would NOT be repeated by the new folks brought in from Alaska.
[Additionally we were advised that payments of the 4.2 would not be affected by this change.]
We will shared more info as we become aware of it.
Respectfully, your EXCO
#2977
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
Are Horizon's E175's watered down (on paper) to 86,000lb like the rest of the RJ 175's out there or the full 89,000 the plane is certified for?
I know AS doesn't have scope and QX doesn't fly for anyone else, so just curious.
I know AS doesn't have scope and QX doesn't fly for anyone else, so just curious.
#2979
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: E175 F/O
Posts: 12
Been voraciously reading this forum all freaking night and I must sleep! It's 4am and I need answers.. So before I stay up till 8am going back thru the rest of the thread I'm going to simply ask the information.
Quick intro: I'm 29, living in Miami, FL. Used to live in Vancouver. Currently a Lear-35 F/O doing middle of the night air ambulance ops. 950 hours TT, 730hrs Turbine. I love the PNW and I desperately want to move back/fly/enjoy life. I have an interview date for Feb 28th with QX. I am also considering Envoy and others but like I said - my heart is in them mountains over there.
Don't ask me why but I manage to start reading posts you guys were making back in september of 2017 (page 230ish)... SCARY STUFF!!!! Man... I want to love this airline, but I need some reassurance.
Snacky or Griever or whoever! please 1. give me a quick update on the status of QX... 2. Is management still deferring jets to skywest? 3. Is QX still severely short staffed? 4. Any other relevant info.
Sorry if I'm way out of the blue here. Just hoping to save some time. Thanks a ton for everything you guys and others contributed to date! These forums help us newbies tremendously.
Quick intro: I'm 29, living in Miami, FL. Used to live in Vancouver. Currently a Lear-35 F/O doing middle of the night air ambulance ops. 950 hours TT, 730hrs Turbine. I love the PNW and I desperately want to move back/fly/enjoy life. I have an interview date for Feb 28th with QX. I am also considering Envoy and others but like I said - my heart is in them mountains over there.
Don't ask me why but I manage to start reading posts you guys were making back in september of 2017 (page 230ish)... SCARY STUFF!!!! Man... I want to love this airline, but I need some reassurance.
Snacky or Griever or whoever! please 1. give me a quick update on the status of QX... 2. Is management still deferring jets to skywest? 3. Is QX still severely short staffed? 4. Any other relevant info.
Sorry if I'm way out of the blue here. Just hoping to save some time. Thanks a ton for everything you guys and others contributed to date! These forums help us newbies tremendously.
#2980
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 268
First, get some sleep. For a brief answer to your questions:
(1) Horizon status: Not much change, still motoring along. You indicated that you'd like to return to the Pacific Northwest. Horizon would be a good place to work for two or three years. I wouldn't plan on staying here permanently.
(2) Jet deliveries: To be perfectly honest, no one knows. Most of us suspect that Air Group management has been transferring some of our jet deliveries to SkyWest. The pilot union sued the company and the Air Group has been ordered to turn over the documents, but I haven't heard anything more on this issue. We currently have ten jets on the property.
(3) The jet appears to be overstaffed. The training pipeline is also "plugged" at this time, with people waiting weeks for IOE trips (not enough airplanes? Not enough trips?). The Q400 is still short-staffed. The training department seems to be catching up, but most of the new hires are still experiencing delays in training. Most of the new-hires in the Q400 are taking three months (or more) to get out on the line. Horizon is also "close to" hiring street captains for the Q400, due to the lack of upgrade-qualified FO's. At the present time, we do NOT have an FAA-approved program for this, so new hires with previous Part 121 experience have to do both the FO and upgrade training programs.
(4) Other: The jet base is Seattle. Q400 bases are Portland, Medford, Boise, Seattle, and Spokane. A lot of guys/gals are getting Portland right out of training.
You will most likely be offered the Q400. The trips are hard, but we do some interesting flying. If you want the jet (and are offered a job), you may have to wait a few months for a class.
(1) Horizon status: Not much change, still motoring along. You indicated that you'd like to return to the Pacific Northwest. Horizon would be a good place to work for two or three years. I wouldn't plan on staying here permanently.
(2) Jet deliveries: To be perfectly honest, no one knows. Most of us suspect that Air Group management has been transferring some of our jet deliveries to SkyWest. The pilot union sued the company and the Air Group has been ordered to turn over the documents, but I haven't heard anything more on this issue. We currently have ten jets on the property.
(3) The jet appears to be overstaffed. The training pipeline is also "plugged" at this time, with people waiting weeks for IOE trips (not enough airplanes? Not enough trips?). The Q400 is still short-staffed. The training department seems to be catching up, but most of the new hires are still experiencing delays in training. Most of the new-hires in the Q400 are taking three months (or more) to get out on the line. Horizon is also "close to" hiring street captains for the Q400, due to the lack of upgrade-qualified FO's. At the present time, we do NOT have an FAA-approved program for this, so new hires with previous Part 121 experience have to do both the FO and upgrade training programs.
(4) Other: The jet base is Seattle. Q400 bases are Portland, Medford, Boise, Seattle, and Spokane. A lot of guys/gals are getting Portland right out of training.
You will most likely be offered the Q400. The trips are hard, but we do some interesting flying. If you want the jet (and are offered a job), you may have to wait a few months for a class.
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