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Old 04-05-2019, 08:48 PM
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No really thought through. What about the discrepancy of flight time between reserve pilots and line holders. The company needs both but will only reward the latter

If there is ANYTHING about the Q to E-jet conversion that has really been thought through it isn’t readily apparent to a lot of us.
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Old 04-06-2019, 09:44 AM
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So, if you have prior 121 time and want to work for Alaska, coming to QX could actually slow you down. Am I understanding this correctly?

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From now on in order to move up to AS through the Pathways program you will need 1000 QX PIC and 2000 QX TT.
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:28 AM
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So, if you have prior 121 time and want to work for Alaska, coming to QX could actually slow you down. Am I understanding this correctly?
Yep. If you come to a Horizon and upgrade right away, you will be junior for a long time on reserve. Hitting that 2000TT at QX will take years, I’m guessing more than 4
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1 View Post
So, if you have prior 121 time and want to work for Alaska, coming to QX could actually slow you down. Am I understanding this correctly?
Correct...Anyone with any prior time or mil time is way better off not coming to Horizon if Alaska is your goal.

It will take at least 4-5 years to get 1000 PIC here.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores View Post
Correct...Anyone with any prior time or mil time is way better off not coming to Horizon if Alaska is your goal.

It will take at least 4-5 years to get 1000 PIC here.
The 1000pic isn’t the worst part of that, the 2000TT at Horizon will be the hard part, there are FO’s on the Q right now that are doing their first CQ sub 300 hours. There are pilots who came here and upgraded right away doing their first CQ’s sub 300 hours.
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:24 PM
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There's also no way they will be able to staff 50% of AS classes with Qx'ers with this requirement...Literally anyone who doesn't already have a class date on the list (except for the Q3 eligible pilots) does not have 1k PIC here. Guarantee it.
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:31 PM
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Well that new policy pretty much just solidified my plans to bail at the first opportunity. It just doesn’t make sense for me to stick around any longer.

Hmm...I wonder how this will affect recruiting plans.
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:09 PM
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Well that new policy pretty much just solidified my plans to bail at the first opportunity. It just doesn’t make sense for me to stick around any longer.

Hmm...I wonder how this will affect recruiting plans.
Agreed.
Not worth it.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Starchkr View Post
Hmm...I wonder how this will affect recruiting plans.
This decision does seem shortsighted as far as recruiting new pilots (with prior experience) goes. I remember a few years back it was common knowledge that if your sights were set at AS going to QX was a bad idea. The first version of the pathway seemed to fixed that. Now, it looks like with a modified version QX is going backwards. What’s next?
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1 View Post
This decision does seem shortsighted as far as recruiting new pilots (with prior experience) goes. I remember a few years back it was common knowledge that if your sights were set at AS going to QX was a bad idea. The first version of the pathway seemed to fixed that. Now, it looks like with a modified version QX is going backwards. What’s next?
It certainly won’t help, but those that make these decisions probably don’t care as we aren’t hurting for people at the moment. Last I heard CJO’s were told maybe a class date by the fall if not later, that alone should stop people from coming here but it doesn’t.
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