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Old 11-18-2015, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lowflying View Post
You might learn a little about what's going and more importantly you might learn about the process.

What process? Our contract is good for another two years. This isn't a part of a defined process. The company said they'll expand our flying if we cut them a deal, so they had the union sign a seemingly extensive NDA and we haven't heard anything worthwhile since. The union has basically expressed the same frustration as us: "We realize the lack of details surrounding these negotiations from your Union, while the company continually bombards us with their story, causes a high frustration level amongst the pilots."

Honestly most of this wouldn't affect all of us that much if our existence wasn't being threatened and we weren't constantly hearing one side of the story.
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:14 PM
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What process? Our contract is good for another two years. This isn't a part of a defined process. The company said they'll expand our flying if we cut them a deal, so they had the union sign a seemingly extensive NDA and we haven't heard anything worthwhile since. The union has basically expressed the same frustration as us: "We realize the lack of details surrounding these negotiations from your Union, while the company continually bombards us with their story, causes a high frustration level amongst the pilots."

Honestly most of this wouldn't affect all of us that much if our existence wasn't being threatened and we weren't constantly hearing one side of the story.
The exco is composed of pilots just like you and me. They aren't management stooges or super senior guys looking to, "get theirs." Their job is to negotiate with the company and get back to us. If we like what they come up with then we vote yes. If you talk to one of them in person I guarantee that you'll come away much more informed then you will reading the qx facebook page or this site.
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lowflying View Post
The exco is composed of pilots just like you and me. They aren't management stooges or super senior guys looking to, "get theirs." Their job is to negotiate with the company and get back to us. If we like what they come up with then we vote yes. If you talk to one of them in person I guarantee that you'll come away much more informed then you will reading the qx facebook page or this site.
But where is the fun in that?
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:52 PM
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I'm new and just starting with QX... anyone have an idea of latest reserve time and base that I should expect? THX
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Old 11-18-2015, 07:16 PM
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Base: Anything but Anchorage. Most people are getting what they want during class. (They'll give you your first choice for IOE no matter what.)

Reserve Time: Depends on the base. I'd guess the average is 3 - 4 bids.
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Old 11-18-2015, 07:42 PM
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I'm new and just starting with QX... anyone have an idea of latest reserve time and base that I should expect? THX
I've been on reserve for 9 months now in PDX, and still roughly 3-4 bids away from a line (unless Alaska classes take FO's). It sucks. Would still be at the bottom of the list in virtually any other base too.

Don't mean to discourage you but why did you come here with all this **** going on here?
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Old 11-18-2015, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristheCFI View Post
Base: Anything but Anchorage. Most people are getting what they want during class. (They'll give you your first choice for IOE no matter what.)

Reserve Time: Depends on the base. I'd guess the average is 3 - 4 bids.
Is ANC not attainable as a new hire?
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Interesting, thanks for the Reserve timing info. Came for the PNW and hoping for the best.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lowflying View Post
The exco is composed of pilots just like you and me. They aren't management stooges or super senior guys looking to, "get theirs." Their job is to negotiate with the company and get back to us. If we like what they come up with then we vote yes. If you talk to one of them in person I guarantee that you'll come away much more informed then you will reading the qx facebook page or this site.
I didn't accuse the union of any of that. The only complaint I have of the union is that they told us they had big news then didn't deliver. Honestly I think the best thing to have happen right now is for things to keep on like they are and for the company to get nervous about a looming deadline for securing a new TA - a deadline they have, not us.

Originally Posted by ChristheCFI View Post
Base: Anything but Anchorage. Most people are getting what they want during class. (They'll give you your first choice for IOE no matter what.)

Reserve Time: Depends on the base. I'd guess the average is 3 - 4 bids.
It changes a lot month-to-month but you can count on basically any base within a bid. SEA and ANC aren't as common right out of class, but every base as been held by a new hire this year at some point. Reserve varies significantly. I think the highest right now is about a year before holding a line, but it is a little higher than usual because we are overstaffed and have tons of composite lines due to Alaska suspending several classes this winter. Currently we are showing 64 pilots categorized as "In-Process Attrition." Not sure what the typical number is on that, but that seems high.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jdaviat10 View Post
I'm new and just starting with QX... anyone have an idea of latest reserve time and base that I should expect? THX
You don't have to tell us you are a new hire to get information. You posted the exact same thing on a different thread saying you are a new hire at TSA....
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