What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
#101
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Position: A321 - 39E
Posts: 312
What process? Our contract is good for another two years. This isn't a part of a defined process. The company said they'll expand our flying if we cut them a deal, so they had the union sign a seemingly extensive NDA and we haven't heard anything worthwhile since. The union has basically expressed the same frustration as us: "We realize the lack of details surrounding these negotiations from your Union, while the company continually bombards us with their story, causes a high frustration level amongst the pilots."
Honestly most of this wouldn't affect all of us that much if our existence wasn't being threatened and we weren't constantly hearing one side of the story.
#102
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What process? Our contract is good for another two years. This isn't a part of a defined process. The company said they'll expand our flying if we cut them a deal, so they had the union sign a seemingly extensive NDA and we haven't heard anything worthwhile since. The union has basically expressed the same frustration as us: "We realize the lack of details surrounding these negotiations from your Union, while the company continually bombards us with their story, causes a high frustration level amongst the pilots."
Honestly most of this wouldn't affect all of us that much if our existence wasn't being threatened and we weren't constantly hearing one side of the story.
Honestly most of this wouldn't affect all of us that much if our existence wasn't being threatened and we weren't constantly hearing one side of the story.
#103
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Position: Q400 FO
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The exco is composed of pilots just like you and me. They aren't management stooges or super senior guys looking to, "get theirs." Their job is to negotiate with the company and get back to us. If we like what they come up with then we vote yes. If you talk to one of them in person I guarantee that you'll come away much more informed then you will reading the qx facebook page or this site.
#106
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
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Don't mean to discourage you but why did you come here with all this **** going on here?
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#109
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Position: A321 - 39E
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The exco is composed of pilots just like you and me. They aren't management stooges or super senior guys looking to, "get theirs." Their job is to negotiate with the company and get back to us. If we like what they come up with then we vote yes. If you talk to one of them in person I guarantee that you'll come away much more informed then you will reading the qx facebook page or this site.
It changes a lot month-to-month but you can count on basically any base within a bid. SEA and ANC aren't as common right out of class, but every base as been held by a new hire this year at some point. Reserve varies significantly. I think the highest right now is about a year before holding a line, but it is a little higher than usual because we are overstaffed and have tons of composite lines due to Alaska suspending several classes this winter. Currently we are showing 64 pilots categorized as "In-Process Attrition." Not sure what the typical number is on that, but that seems high.
#110
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Position: A321 - 39E
Posts: 312
You don't have to tell us you are a new hire to get information. You posted the exact same thing on a different thread saying you are a new hire at TSA....
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