With Skywest's new payscales, rigs, etc. I have a hard time seeing how Horizon pilots cost more than them. We have pretty good insurance here and a slightly better 401k, but we also pay our own LTD which adds up to quite a lot of money.

Preach it brother.

Just about everything else though.

-They expect us to fly at Q400 rates (concession)
-Losing SAP for PBS (massive ****ing concession)
-"aircraft movement" over brake release/door closure (concession)
-possible loss of trip/duty rigs (concession)

They already gutted our 401k's and we pay a ton of money for LTD so they can't take much more from there, but they would if they could.

Man, F--- ALASKA.

I've heard these two things discussed on the line, but I don't recall seeing it in a mgmt email or hearing it at a town hall meeting. I know they tried pulling the a/c movement thing on the FA's but they shot that down pretty quickly.

Then again, we know basically nothing about what they are actually negotiating so...


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Burn it down!

Here's the video:

https://vimeo.com/139018298

The cost comparison chart is about 14 minutes in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pswa4jhzia.png

Average stage length at QX is about an hour, maybe less with the routes given to skywest this year. Every Q400 has 76 seats. If you adjust QX for stage length and break it down per seat mile, it would be apparent our costs are much lower than they appear. It's easy to skew the data to show what you want. And for the Alaska guys who think this flying we lost was theirs in the first place, you never flew many of these routes. Example SAN-FAT and SLC-BOI. After the air group adds 50 more ER175's maybe you will learn this costs Alaska pilots jobs. All jets should be at Alaska, remaining flying should be flown by QX. HR does a great job of hiring yes voters up at big brother.

When is your contract amenable....Why would you considering a TA that essentialy guts your contract when you are not in contract negotiations....sounds fishy, smells fishy....