You guys seem to forget that SKW is currently flying Air Group owned jets that once had Horizon paint on them.

We know. On that note, sorry to the OO guys out there who are harassed by some of our Captains who are salty as ****. It's misplaced anger that should be directed towards Alaska mgt.

What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
 

I'll second this. It's a small number of people here giving us a bad name. I think the majority of the pilot group is smart enough to realize that blaming Skywest only shifts our attention from the real source of our problems.



How so? QX has felt threatened by outsourcing long before our newfound "commitment to compete." However, regardless of the way you look at the outsourcing of the CRJ's, there are some notable differences.

1. The CRJ's went to Skywest as the CRJ fleet was downsizing due to the loss of the Denver flying.
2. The jets Skywest got from us weren't brand new (I'm guessing AAG has planned all along to phase out the CRJ program with Skywest).
3. Alaska wasn't expanding their route structure with Skywest, they were just looking to save a buck by not having a handful of airplanes flown in house.

Now we're not talking about a few CRJ's, we're talking about 7, then 15, and now 45 E175's that are or could potentially be outsourced. All new airplanes that are expanding Alaska's small lift network that will very likely be on the property for a long time.

How are you Alaska guys looking at this? I can see why you guys wouldn't have cared about the CRJ outsourcing, but do you guys see all these plans to fly into the central US in E175's as a threat to your own expansion?

It's difficult for me to imagine a more ignorant statement.

Agreed!!!!!

I agree with this too.

I agree with this too.

I'll second that.

Have you guys ever voted no? Your chief pilot used to be a big part of your union. You voted in a subpar contract with mediocre pay and now you are watching midcon flying being farmed out. From your previous posts, you are a company man. I have a hard time imagining you saying anything else.

What's happening at Horizon and Jets?
 

Flame baiting aside, what really is the opinion on the line at Alaska about this? The disparity in opinion of what AAG has planned for the future between Alaska and Horizon is quite interesting. Lots of Horizon people feel that they "deserve" this flying, but I see it at detrimental to the industry as a whole to farm out midcon flying like this to "regionals." Is that opinion shared at Alaska? Anyone over there beating the drum for scope?