JB launches fleet review - bye bye E190?
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...oncern-435199/
Here's a particularly damning quote from the article: “The stage length of the E190 is 40% shorter but the E190 is a high CASM airplane,” says Hayes. “We look at the E190 issue not as a CASM issue, but a return issue.” There was interest in the C-Series at one point: "The airline had previously expressed interest in the Bombardier CSeries, but Hayes told FlightGlobal in June 2016 that a new order for 100-seater aircraft is not high on the carrier’s list of immediate priorities." Keep in mind that the CS300 is a 130-seater and it has a 3,000 mile range. Talk about flexibility! Air Canada has something like 45 CS300s on firm order and Delta could convert many of its CS100 orders into the bigger CS300 (hopefully to replace their MD88s) - the C-Series will have stronger support from Bombardier with those two big North American customers. Given the dearth of recent C-Series orders, this would be the PERFECT opportunity to negotiate a great deal (especially with Republic's outstanding order for 40 CS300s still out there: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...on-pla-425557/). Everyone knows I am a big fan of the C-Series because of it's clean sheet design and strong economics (i.e., 25% more fuel efficient than the 737NG or A319/20). With the inherent flexibility of the 3,000 mile range, the enhanced passenger ergonomics (2x3 seating and large overhead bins for business travelers) and strong price-negotiating leveraging considering the lack of recent orders, JB should really look closely at the C-Series (especially the CS300) for its much lower CASM. Check out this video of the CS300 including a good look at the cabin and cockpit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9BeKiVW1Sk I would love to see the C-Series in JB colors... And to top it off, pilots can forget the ram horns and just use side sticks on both the C-Series and the Airbus. :D:cool: |
Originally Posted by David Puddy
(Post 2321465)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...oncern-435199/
Here's a particularly damning quote from the article: “The stage length of the E190 is 40% shorter but the E190 is a high CASM airplane,” says Hayes. “We look at the E190 issue not as a CASM issue, but a return issue.” There was interest in the C-Series at one point: "The airline had previously expressed interest in the Bombardier CSeries, but Hayes told FlightGlobal in June 2016 that a new order for 100-seater aircraft is not high on the carrier’s list of immediate priorities." Keep in mind that the CS300 is a 130-seater and it has a 3,000 mile range. Talk about flexibility! Air Canada has something like 45 CS300s on firm order and Delta could convert many of its CS100 orders into the bigger CS300 (hopefully to replace their MD88s) - the C-Series will have stronger support from Bombardier with those two big North American customers. Given the dearth of recent C-Series orders, this would be the PERFECT opportunity to negotiate a great deal (especially with Republic's outstanding order for 40 CS300s still out there: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...on-pla-425557/). Everyone knows I am a big fan of the C-Series because of it's clean sheet design and strong economics (i.e., 25% more fuel efficient than the 737NG or A319/20). With the inherent flexibility of the 3,000 mile range, the enhanced passenger ergonomics (2x3 seating and large overhead bins for business travelers) and strong price-negotiating leveraging considering the lack of recent orders, JB should really look closely at the C-Series (especially the CS300) for its much lower CASM. Check out this video of the CS300 including a good look at the cabin and cockpit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9BeKiVW1Sk I would love to see the C-Series in JB colors... And to top it off, pilots can forget the ram horns and just use side sticks on both the C-Series and the Airbus. :D:cool: |
The E190 is and always was a piece of garbage. Good riddance.
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Just parroting what others have said before but the more I think about it the more it makes sense.
C100/300 A321 Seems to be the future. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 2321525)
Just parroting what others have said before but the more I think about it the more it makes sense.
C100/300 A321 A350/A330/B777 Seems to be the future. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by aldonite7667
(Post 2321509)
The E190 is and always was a piece of garbage. Good riddance.
You're right. Everyone who flies it hates it. That's why so many people are bidding off of it in the last 2 bids. |
Originally Posted by Southerner
(Post 2321611)
You're right. Everyone who flies it hates it. That's why so many people are bidding off of it in the last 2 bids.
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
(Post 2321634)
What's so objectionable about the E190 from a flying perspective up front? I've heard good and bad.
I've been told the 190 actually has a higher dispatch reliability now than our Airbus fleet. As a pilot the Airbus is an easier, more comfortable plane to fly. The type of flying it does for JetBlue is easier as well. They both have their pluses and minuses but the Airbus is a superior airframe overall. It's sales alone should tell you that. |
Originally Posted by Southerner
(Post 2321611)
You're right. Everyone who flies it hates it. That's why so many people are bidding off of it in the last 2 bids.
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
(Post 2321643)
He was being sarcastic.
I've been told the 190 actually has a higher dispatch reliability now than our Airbus fleet. As a pilot the Airbus is an easier, more comfortable plane to fly. The type of flying it does for JetBlue is easier as well. They both have their pluses and minuses but the Airbus is a superior airframe overall. It's sales alone should tell you that. That said a 120/140 seat CS100/300 would likely be a lot more versatile for our airline, and I'd much rather fly that than an Emb. |
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