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hilltopflyer 01-24-2018 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by WorkingUp (Post 2510350)
Please tell me you are kidding . . .

Honestly not. I had no idea. The only time I've heard of a delivery was a chief pilot going to Europe and picking it up. I knew we used to (before I was here) but I thought it stopped.

CFDJC4 01-24-2018 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2510310)
We allow that here?! Wtf. I had no idea. I thought that stuff was done by management pilots (chief pilots,etc)

One of them is a retired DL

Chicken Taco 01-24-2018 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2510310)
We allow that here?! Wtf. I had no idea. I thought that stuff was done by management pilots (chief pilots,etc)

**Cough** CONTRACT!!!! **Cough**

These things can and must be corrected. C91 guys are doing not only the deliveries but also positioning legs to and from heavy maintenance both in and out of the USA. That block time should be flown by ALPA pilots!

This afternoon's JTTP email about the cabin restyling being done in GSO on 101 legacy A320s constitutes 202 legs that could be flown by pilots on our list. Assuming the planes come to/from BOS or JFK that's an average block of 2:00 each way. So 404 airplane hours, or 808 pilot block hours. That's the equivalent of about 11 full-month lines or flying, or what one pilot could be expected to fly in a year. So that's like needing one less union pilot on the property for a year if C91s are doing the repos over the 2 year life of the program. Now consider the block hour count for the heavy checks being done in Central America, and the paint jobs being done in Florida. It adds up quickly and should all be flown by full-time pilots on the property.

Whiskey44 01-25-2018 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Chicken Taco (Post 2510289)
21 were on the list to start today, 19 ALPA pilots and 2 more C91 schmucks. Yeah, so let's just go with 19 today. that makes it 37 so far this year.

What bases and aircraft are available to new hires recently?

Chicken Taco 01-25-2018 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Whiskey44 (Post 2511229)
What bases and aircraft are available to new hires recently?

I don't have the specific class drops, but in general its JFK and BOS. Probably split both types right now based on how many 190 FO's are transitioning to the 320, but I'm not positive..

hilltopflyer 01-25-2018 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Chicken Taco (Post 2510752)
**Cough** CONTRACT!!!! **Cough**

These things can and must be corrected. C91 guys are doing not only the deliveries but also positioning legs to and from heavy maintenance both in and out of the USA. That block time should be flown by ALPA pilots!

This afternoon's JTTP email about the cabin restyling being done in GSO on 101 legacy A320s constitutes 202 legs that could be flown by pilots on our list. Assuming the planes come to/from BOS or JFK that's an average block of 2:00 each way. So 404 airplane hours, or 808 pilot block hours. That's the equivalent of about 11 full-month lines or flying, or what one pilot could be expected to fly in a year. So that's like needing one less union pilot on the property for a year if C91s are doing the repos over the 2 year life of the program. Now consider the block hour count for the heavy checks being done in Central America, and the paint jobs being done in Florida. It adds up quickly and should all be flown by full-time pilots on the property.

I understand the problem with having them. Just didn't know we had them here. A contract should take care of that.

BeatNavy 01-25-2018 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Whiskey44 (Post 2511229)
What bases and aircraft are available to new hires recently?

Not KCBA. That base is not available and isn’t forecasted to be available in 2018. Hopefully you get awarded KFUPM out of training. That’s where the rest of us are based now.


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