Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2471224)

I believe your math to be a bit off, Sir.

First year (min guarantee):
Republic - $36,729. Bonus is $15,000 or $17,500 with 121 time. So either $51,729 or $54,229.

JB is $41,737 plus training pay of $3,000 or $44,737.

Second year:
Republic - $37,350
JB - $71,400

So while Republic wins the first year by about $10K, it also takes a $16,879 pay cut second year, whereas JB has a pay increase of $26,663.

IFF one happens to upgrade at Republic, he/she will make $64,800 (vs. $71,400 JB)second year. $66,600 3rd year (vs. JB FO at $84,000).

I won’t even get into the astronomical difference in pay when one upgrades at JB. Also, I was using the lower 190 pay rates; obviously, the 320 guys make approximately $8,400 more annually.

(Not counting JB’s MUCH better 401K to keep things at the disposable income level).


Hoepfully that provides some accurate perspective from the outside.

Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2471236)

If you are here for 10 years in this environment you've failed.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO (Post 2471247)

In 2017, you go to a regional to get PIC or a flow to a real major.
You go to JetBlue because you live in the Northeast.

Hopefully that will change if JB can become a job that is comparable to DL/UAL/AA/SWA.

If you are 23-35 and have major airline aspirations, the safest bet right now is to go to a regional. Too many BlueJuicers like Southerner sabotaging the union's efforts of making JB a job worth staying at.

#keepsgettingbetterinbluegloves

Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2471237)

You get the bonus every year, capts included. Quick upgrade makes up for the FO hourly rate difference. Remember, you keep getting bonuses. I dont consider upgrade at B6, because its a decade away for new hires. You could fly for endeavor, go to DAL, and upgrade on the MD, before you upgrade here.

Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2471256)

Why the obsession about JetBlue, unless I am mistaken you don't even work here.

Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2471290)

You’re not mistaken, and I am not obsessed with any airline. But as someone who hopes to move up one day, I like to try to think outside my own little box. Expand my horizons, if you will.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO (Post 2471299)

Even though he was talking about me, I agree 100% with your sentiment.

I turned down my JB class bc SWA had called (even though I interviewed at SWA a month after JB, another problem JB has).

From an outsider's perspective, it sure seems like the JB MGT attitude is "well we only hire people who live in the northeast and since you moved to NH to not go crazy with our garbage reserve rules, we are UIKeyInputUpArrowgoing to try and pay you less because we figure your wife doesn't want to move and/or you don't want to commute for a better job. We'll give you free blue gloves though."

Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2471311)

So a bunch of guys who don’t even work here want to pontificate on something they know nothing about. Got it.