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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2483909)
Figured but you never know on here.
You need one of those emoji sarcasm faces :) Filler filler |
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
(Post 2483854)
I wasn't talking to you, BD.
Jesus Christ, learn to read, comprehend, or just stop typing. It's always better to S TFU as opposed to what you're doing which is removing all doubt as to just what a big no-nothing blowhard you really are. My club does NOT approve. Therefore I declare you a monkeys bottom. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 2483930)
Sorry Juicebox, you said he was a charter member of my club BECAUSE he wants to vote no on a CBA just because. That implies that my club condones that action.
My club does NOT approve. Therefore I declare you a monkeys bottom. Everything's all about you, BD. I was specifically talking to him, about him and his actions. You really are the most pathetic person on this board. And that says a lot. |
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2483915)
Notice I said good contract. We may get something before them, but a lot of guys here seem to think "We will never get paid like brand x." That defeatism is going to keep us down I think.
The negotiating committee has data from at least two online surveys and two or three phone polls performed throughout the duration of this negotiating process. They know where this pilot group expects to be with a new CBA. They have quantitative data, while our impressions are anecdotal and qualitative. Based on all of the NC and MEC communications to the pilot group and listening to them talk at both rallies and other events, they know an overwhelming majority of the pilots here will not settle for less than our peers that are represented in the contract comparison guide. Are there pilots who will settle for less? Yes, I've flown with some who have said so. But they represent a sliver of a minority that reside on the low side of the bell curve that represents our pilot group. The vast opinion of our pilots I've interacted with are sick of the status quo of continually trailing our peers in compensation, work rules, benefits, etc. Its been a long process to get to this stage of negotiations. Now is the time we can finally begin to push hard, in public and in private. Passer, don't give into defeatism yourself. Many of these pilots you mentioned can be reached and persuaded. Even if you don't change their mind that day in the crew van or that trip, you may have planted a seed or watered one another pilot planted earlier. Maybe it will grow, maybe it won't. But if we resign ourselves to never reaching out to pilots with differing opinions, we will never have the open and honest dialogue required for this pilot group to be informed and unified. I hope to be walking next to you on the 31st. |
Originally Posted by The701Express
(Post 2483942)
What seems to be is not always representative of what is true.
The negotiating committee has data from at least two online surveys and two or three phone polls performed throughout the duration of this negotiating process. They know where this pilot group expects to be with a new CBA. They have quantitative data, while our impressions are anecdotal and qualitative. Based on all of the NC and MEC communications to the pilot group and listening to them talk at both rallies and other events, they know an overwhelming majority of the pilots here will not settle for less than our peers that are represented in the contract comparison guide. Are there pilots who will settle for less? Yes, I've flown with some who have said so. But they represent a sliver of a minority that reside on the low side of the bell curve that represents our pilot group. The vast opinion of our pilots I've interacted with are sick of the status quo of continually trailing our peers in compensation, work rules, benefits, etc. Its been a long process to get to this stage of negotiations. Now is the time we can finally begin to push hard, in public and in private. Passer, don't give into defeatism yourself. Many of these pilots you mentioned can be reached and persuaded. Even if you don't change their mind that day in the crew van or that trip, you may have planted a seed or watered one another pilot planted earlier. Maybe it will grow, maybe it won't. But if we resign ourselves to never reaching out to pilots with differing opinions, we will never have the open and honest dialogue required for this pilot group to be informed and unified. I hope to be walking next to you on the 31st. |
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2483963)
Well lets hope you are right. I will vote no on any TA with sub big 3 pay rates, work rules and a +1 clause. Oh and scope. Hope the one we get has all that.
You really shouldn’t post online what you would or wouldn’t vote yes on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Southerner
(Post 2483981)
You really shouldn’t post online what you would or wouldn’t vote yes on.
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2484000)
Dont worry, I highly doubt all that will be in the TA anyway.
I trust our negotiating committee will present us with a worthy TA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
(Post 2483931)
Everything's all about you, BD.
I was specifically talking to him, about him and his actions. You really are the most pathetic person on this board. And that says a lot. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 2484041)
Feelings not hurt Juicebox. You mentioned me in your post for a reason. You brought me into your post, not the other way around.
It’s always about you and your little pathetic world. You’re a joke and everyone on this site sees it. |
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