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Originally Posted by Softpayman
(Post 2498351)
Ironically BK seems to be the road to becoming a "Real Airline." United...NW...DL...AA fairly recently.
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https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ty-is-at-risk/
Think we’re falling apart? Try being Alaska. If that places continues this nosedive, it’s only a matter of time before JB will have LAX, SFO, PDX and SEA. Seriously hope that happens. Except scope would be a huge issue. I think more than half of their flying is outsourced to some bottom feeders. |
We are now where near BK... not even in the same galaxy.
We can cross that road if/when it comes. Right NOW we have one of if not the best balance books in the industry and we print money. The time is now for a market rate contract. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2498581)
We are now where near BK... not even in the same galaxy.
We can cross that road if/when it comes. Right NOW we have one of if not the best balance books in the industry and we print money. The time is now for a market rate contract. -Bubs |
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 2498511)
You are correct. PIC and carrier are the approval authority to extend either/both crew members. If the PIC doesn’t concur to an extension for either crewmember, it’s done and over with. Company can’t say anything. No fatigue report required. If Captain concurs, but the FO does not concur because he believes he is not fit to fly, a fatigue report must be filled out. This can be avoided by the captain not concuring in the first place and talking to the FO, hence me getting pssed when I returned from the walk around and my Captain said “hey the company called and asked how you were doing and if I’d agree to extend you, so I did. Hope that’s cool.”
Jetblue does require a report any time an extension is refused by the CA. It's either a FCIR or a Fatigue report if the refusal was for human factors reasons. Although not required by 117, it's Jetblue's position that the CA consult with the F/O prior to granting an extension. |
I’ve railed about this a thousand times. It’s hard to take the cumbya out of the cumbya pilot group. I have a buddy who’s tying his best to not pick up rsa because he received some informal counseling from his peers. Most heard answer to disregard doing the right thing? “Someone else is getting (RSA $) why not me?” I’d like to see how the LGB guys r handling the RSA’s.
The whole point is that guys picking up rsa on days off is like a 2 for 1sale. Everyone loves 2 for 1 at the store. Well, that’s what we are when we pick up rsa. Corporate loves 2 for 1 employees too. You hire 1 pilot to do twice the work. But think about ALL THAT $$$$$$!! Short staffing is a cost saver. It prevents hiring and more importantly upgrades. That’s training and salary costs. Guys must like sitting reserve and never getting to bid to MCO or FLL. A market rate contract will allow pilots more flexibility to work more if they want to and make more money whether hey do what they’ve agreed to do or pick up extra time. I think the company sees giving thr pilots a CBA as a loss. They’ve lost face and money. But really they win. The pilots will probably do more and bail them out of their irop mistakes faster thus saving them money. They fix their labor costs and balance staffing. Herb Kelleher paid his pilots the best contracts because he knew it’s the pilots who move the jets. More jets moving = more revenue. We’re hampered by the old school jetblue management mentality and a fear of moving this airline forward. Someone has to let go of the Neeleman way and get us to a future with goals and progress gates. -Bubs |
Someone else can jump in but, I believe extensions are only for unforseen circumstances ie mechanical, medical emergency. Weather and delays are well known in advance, as well as flight delays from historical data.
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
(Post 2498595)
Short staffing is a cost saver. It prevents hiring and more importantly upgrades. That’s training and salary costs. Guys must like sitting reserve and never getting to bid to MCO or FLL.
-Bubs The new New York sick leave laws will force their hand to ramp up hiring. They won't be able to just constantly issue RSA in NY like they currently do in tiny LGB on account of Kin-Care. I think something similar is working its way through the MA courts. Speaking of LGB, looks like their hands will be forced there too afterall. From a local LGB newspaper: JetBlue Late-night flights and LB Airport fines At the urging of Fourth District Councilman Daryl Supernaw, a process was started last year to look at the fine structure for Late Flights at the Long Beach Airport. That plan is likely to be announced in 2018. JetBlue racked up a historic amount of violations and resulting fines in 2017. The U.S. Transportation Department's on-time performance Data through October of last year shows that JetBlue's 70% average is the airlines worst performance since 2007. The industry average for the same period is 79%. With 70% of its flights stopping in the Northeast, the airline has blamed airport runway repair work at Boston's Logan and New York's Kennedy airports as well as having less time padding in its flight schedules for its on-time problems. The U.S. Transportation Department reports that JetBlue is responsible for 8 percent of its delays compared to the U.S. industry average of 5.1% New York and Boston are not the only cities JetBlue is having on-time issues. Here in Long Beach, plus in San Juan Puerto Rico and in Orlando Florida, JetBlue's on-time-performance has declined for the last three years. JetBlue's five consecutive months of "chronic delays" (more than 30 minutes, 50% of the time) of JetBlue Flight 687 that flies between Orlando and San Juan has prompted a review from the U.S. Department of Transportation. Delays have cost JetBlue money other than the Long Beach fines. Delays cost airlines about $62.55 a minute according to the Airlines for America trade group. |
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 2498401)
Well yeah, and I did, but it made/makes for an awkward cockpit climate (and degradation of CRM if you want to go there) after laying down the law with a captain. It is supposed to be the Captain making the safe and prudent decisions and not being overridden by a subordinate. It’s unsat when almost all my captains get plssed when I ask them to write stuff up. Then they try to pressure me to accept doing it later. I know for a fact it happens all the time. I’ve talked to friends and captains about it. No way are the small writeups I find not found by others. They are just overlooked because they are minor. The union (and company and FAA) has said it is a legal requirement to write it up, no matter how small. Why a CA would try to pressure FOs to accept anything less is beyond me, in (or not in) a labor dispute. As for the extension...I wasn’t fatigued. That’s not the point. Extensions aren’t fatigue calls. They are purely optional regardless of fatigue level. No fatigue is required. So he could have consulted me and known that I didn’t want to extend.
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Originally Posted by Bluetruth
(Post 2498612)
The new New York sick leave laws will force their hand to ramp up hiring. They won't be able to just constantly issue RSA in NY like they currently do in tiny LGB on account of Kin-Care. I think something similar is working its way through the MA courts.
Speaking of LGB, looks like their hands will be forced there too afterall. From a local LGB newspaper: |
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