Questions about JB
#41
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,879
Mileage will very depending on who's looking in and what street they are looking from. Someone from a bottom barrel regional might see 3 year airbus pay and have their eyes light up. It's all subjective. But yes, JB pilots need to be caught up on the market rates and be paid accordingly. After your initial ~year or so on reserve, what does a standard line look like? As far as days per month/days per trip/legs per day. I know the contract blows but what is life on the line like..
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As to your question, lines are built to an average minimum of approximately 85 hours. Junior Airbus pilots usually hold 10 hour 3-day trips that end with a red-eye.
You heard that right, 10 hours of pay for a 3 day trip. Work backwards for days off per month. Welcome to JB.
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 591
Mileage will very depending on who's looking in and what street they are looking from. Someone from a bottom barrel regional might see 3 year airbus pay and have their eyes light up. It's all subjective. But yes, JB pilots need to be caught up on the market rates and be paid accordingly. After your initial ~year or so on reserve, what does a standard line look like? As far as days per month/days per trip/legs per day. I know the contract blows but what is life on the line like..
Thanks
Thanks
Jetblue has internal stats that measure the number of Promoters and Detractor. They call it Net Promoter Score or NPS. They use it to measure both external NPS of our customer and internal to measure the NPS of employees.
They broke all employee into our Departments. Flight Operation, inflight, Ground Ops, etc.
Flight Operations had the biggest change (delta) from promoter to detractor and over the shortest period of time. That means even the pilots who came from "bottom of the barrel" airlines in 6 months went from a Promoter to Detractor. The drop was fastest and the differential was the largest of all other work groups.
The best way to survive the next 3-5 years is to live in base. As far as what it looks like during this time then contract your bud who works here and have them send to you the last 12 month of bid results for A320 JFK FO and then plan the commutes in and home.
#43
You said it yourself, JB can only look good if your in a REAL feces-hole job now.
As to your question, lines are built to an average minimum of approximately 85 hours. Junior Airbus pilots usually hold 10 hour 3-day trips that end with a red-eye.
You heard that right, 10 hours of pay for a 3 day trip. Work backwards for days off per month. Welcome to JB.
As to your question, lines are built to an average minimum of approximately 85 hours. Junior Airbus pilots usually hold 10 hour 3-day trips that end with a red-eye.
You heard that right, 10 hours of pay for a 3 day trip. Work backwards for days off per month. Welcome to JB.
I’ve been here a little over a year, I hold mostly commutable 3-4 day DAY trips, up and down the east coast 2 legs a day usually. Average credit between 19-24 hours per trip with about 95 credit a month.
I do not like being in the seat for more than 5 hours in a single sitting so I prefer the 2 leggers on east coast.
10 hour 3 days are a joke, hence why they are always in open time. YMMV.
#44
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 17
I’m going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you here “insert bill lumberg voice.”
I’ve been here a little over a year, I hold mostly commutable 3-4 day DAY trips, up and down the east coast 2 legs a day usually. Average credit between 19-24 hours per trip with about 95 credit a month.
I do not like being in the seat for more than 5 hours in a single sitting so I prefer the 2 leggers on east coast.
10 hour 3 days are a joke, hence why they are always in open time. YMMV.
I’ve been here a little over a year, I hold mostly commutable 3-4 day DAY trips, up and down the east coast 2 legs a day usually. Average credit between 19-24 hours per trip with about 95 credit a month.
I do not like being in the seat for more than 5 hours in a single sitting so I prefer the 2 leggers on east coast.
10 hour 3 days are a joke, hence why they are always in open time. YMMV.
Let me guess and you hold weekends off as well.
#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: FO
Posts: 435
I’m about to have my second anniversary, and I’ve been too timid to ask, but since you mentioned it, what is this “weekend” I keep seeing people mention?
#47
Never had a weekend/holiday off since I was on reserve. Mostly; by definition means more than likely to have but not always. For Feb I have mostly back end commutable trips with a total credit of 86, plus a night caribbean turn I grabbed to bring it to 92. If you would prefer that I lie about it and say that my schedule is equivalent to that of a very large piece of fecal matter then sure.
See you at the next picket.
Actually I lied about everything. Robin does my bids for me.
#48
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 17
Damn dude you sound like a social assassin. Not a juicer, and not a management stooge but if it makes you feel better go for it.
Never had a weekend/holiday off since I was on reserve. Mostly; by definition means more than likely to have but not always. For Feb I have mostly back end commutable trips with a total credit of 86, plus a night caribbean turn I grabbed to bring it to 92. If you would prefer that I lie about it and say that my schedule is equivalent to that of a very large piece of fecal matter then sure.
See you at the next picket.
Actually I lied about everything. Robin does my bids for me.
Never had a weekend/holiday off since I was on reserve. Mostly; by definition means more than likely to have but not always. For Feb I have mostly back end commutable trips with a total credit of 86, plus a night caribbean turn I grabbed to bring it to 92. If you would prefer that I lie about it and say that my schedule is equivalent to that of a very large piece of fecal matter then sure.
See you at the next picket.
Actually I lied about everything. Robin does my bids for me.
#49
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,879
I’m going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you here “insert bill lumberg voice.”
I’ve been here a little over a year, I hold mostly commutable 3-4 day DAY trips, up and down the east coast 2 legs a day usually. Average credit between 19-24 hours per trip with about 95 credit a month.
I do not like being in the seat for more than 5 hours in a single sitting so I prefer the 2 leggers on east coast.
10 hour 3 days are a joke, hence why they are always in open time. YMMV.
I’ve been here a little over a year, I hold mostly commutable 3-4 day DAY trips, up and down the east coast 2 legs a day usually. Average credit between 19-24 hours per trip with about 95 credit a month.
I do not like being in the seat for more than 5 hours in a single sitting so I prefer the 2 leggers on east coast.
10 hour 3 days are a joke, hence why they are always in open time. YMMV.
#50
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 243
I’m 5 months on the line, JFK Bus. So far I’ve gotten at least 2 or 3 weekend a month off on reserve. Based on the system bid that goes into effect in June, I’ll still be about 20-25 #s away from holding a line if all is the same as last summers bid awards. Likely by Aug, which puts it right at or before the 1yr mark on reserve.
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